Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00162)

At 03:19 PM 11/9/97 PST, you wrote:
>Dear Ramdoss
>
>You paint a golden picture of Sri SaiBaba's teachings and followers.
>I do not wish to enter into personalities--particularly of living
>ones--once again ! But a sense of duty--maybe a false one--makes me say
>that we who live here in Bangalore next to Sai Baba know that the golden
>clouds have some shadows. This was true in HPB's time about some of the
>so-called theosophists and their motives and manner of leading their
>lives. We cannot be neive and think that followers of
>Sai Baba have lost all their human nature and suddenly become each and
>everyone saints. This is not the case in any spiritual movement the
>pupils and devotees bring with them thier karma and their tendencies,
>which become their stumbling-blocks. We have to MAKE OURSELVES, we
>cannot be MADE, miraculously to loose all our weaknesses if not even
>wickednesses. "The Voice of the Silence" describes the virtues we have
>to attain, and defines the difficulties we have to overcome by strenuous
>effort and application.
>One of the very false doctrines which has been exported out of India is
>the idea that a Guru by Initiation (!) wipes clean all our past
>(karma)and we shall by the end of this life attain Moksha, Nirvana,
>escape the bonds of reincarnation. If this was indeed true HPB's
>Mahatma-Master's have done a great disserivice towards us who are still
>learning about theosophy and daily struggling with our faults and
>failings. There are no short-cuts to Adeptship or Mahatmaship, as the
>Third Fundamentals Proposition teaches, it is alone "by self induced
>ways and means" that progress maybe attained.
>
>Sophia, Nov. 11, 97
>
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Dear Sophia:

In any organization, there are going to be problems. I have lived in
Bangalore, India so I am not unfamiliar with the scene there.

While there may be failings, using my simple common sense, if there is any
activity by anyone whose results end helping the common man and woman, then
I support such activities.

While there are varied ideas, theories and opinions in matters of spiritual
matters, as a strong proponent of the First Object of TS, the practical
application of the First Object by individual theosophists is an area where
some attention may be needed.

Anyone with a common sense should know there is no short cut to any natural
process, much less becoming an Adept or a Mahatma. If someone is foolish to
believe such a possibility, until they change their mind, they are entitled
their ideas, which is their right.

So long as we keep our focus on helping the "orphan Humanity", I feel the
importance of the details is something each one of us has to decide for
ourselves.

Thanks for the feedback.


 Peace to all living entities.

 M K Ramadoss
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