Theos-Talk Archives (January 1998 Message tt00321)

>From: "John E Mead" <jmead@infoave.net>
>Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 1:45 PM
>Subject: Re:Dependent or independent?


>> >Thank goodness every
>> >so often someone come
>> >along and says, 'LETS
>> >DO SOMETHING...LETS
>> >HELP THESE POOR
>> >UNFORTUNATES."
>> >
>> >After all isn't this what
>> >HPB did for you?
>> >
>> >Annie did for India?
>> >
>> >Lincoln did
>> >to abolish slavery?
>> >
>> >Michealangelo did
>> >for art?
>> >
>> >and so on and so forth
>> >and on and on.
>> >
>>
>> You are right on target.
>>
>> While we try to do something
>> to the best of our ability,
>> we may be wrong many time. It
>> does not matter. I would try
>> to do something and even if
>> I am wrong 99 out of 100 times
>> that 1 time counts for the
>> person helped. The beneficiary
>> does not care who or why someone
>> helped.
>>
>> Glad that there is at least
>> one person here who seem to
>> agree with my philosophy.
>>
>> mkr
>>
>
>it is amazing that so many people would
>justify letting people starve and die
>since giving them food/shelter and medicine
>would harm them (make them dependent).
>
>the issue is *never* whether or not to help them.
>The real issue is why do you not give them *more*?  like
>an education, training, and a job they can support
>themselves on??
>
>john e. mead
>
Keith:

There is a real interesting idea in KABBALAH.  It is basically that:

1) to receive in order to receive is of our animal and plant nature

and the rich and poor alike have this nature

2) to give in order to receive is trading, commerce, logical, practical and
on the level of common mind

3) to give in order to give is religious, ethical, consensual, harmonious
and on the level of the emotions or Heart (Bakti)

4) to receive in order to give is what we do in divine interaction with the
Divine Light as it does with us, this continuous loop/feedback interaction
is the Essence of altruism, Yoga, devachut, nirvana, salvation ...


Giving good Namaste
Keith