Theos-Talk Archives (March 1998 Message tt00009)

MK Ramadoss-----------

Thanks for your posting
W Kell's biog on R Crosbie.

I read about R
Crosbie from B Campbell's theosophical
history.

MKR, what is W Kell's email
add?  I'll email & question his
statements on K Tingley
Does he belong to U L T?
I extract [below my email] W Kell
on W Judge & K Tingley.
He notes K Tingley was psychic
& those around Judge 'seemed
to be glamoured and deluded by
the psychic powers Mrs. Tingley
exhibited.' Bare
assertion.  How does W Kell
know? Then W Kell's vague
statements re W Judge's occult
diary are contradicted
with specifics from N Stokes
detailed study in "Library
Critic."  After classes today
I'll post from Dr Stokes
showing W Kell's version
quite misleading.

D Green

>1894 - 96

>Mr. Crosbie supported Mr. Judge's principles fully. He acted as one >of
the "witnesses on the scene." He, kept the "link" of
>pure Theosophy "unbroken," after Mr. Judge's death.

>The hints given by W.Q.J. during his life in regard to Crosbie were
>not grasped by those around him, who had what they
>fancied to be their own positions. And, in addition, seemed to be
>glamoured and deluded by the psychic powers Mrs. Tingley
>(who had only been a member for only a year prior to Mr. Judge's
>death) exhibited.

>In New York, Mr. Neresheimer, who was Mr. Judge's executor and Mr.
>Hargrove went through Judge's papers. They found
>what was later described as an incomplete diary of Mr. Judges', but
>which he claimed (in 1896) to be an "occult" diary; and in
>this, he said he detected Mr. Judge's indication that Mrs. Tingley >was
to "succeed" him. Mr. Neresheimer had introduced Mrs.
>Tingley to W. Q. J. about a year before his death. She became a >member
of the T S and later, a member of the E S. She was
>a psychic and apparently did not have a very profound knowledge of
>Theosophical philosophy. She had however been of help
>to Mr. Judge during the last year of his life which was spent in >great
discomfort and illness. However this gave her no special
>"position" in regard to the management of the T.S. or the E.S.>

>Many years later (1923), Mr. Neresheimer made a deposition outlining
>these events, and in that he reversed some of his
>earlier pronouncements, on which the "succession" of Mrs. Tingley had
>been based. From time to time this "occult diary" has
>been mentioned as giving "authority" for the "Tingley succession,"
>however, when requests were made to see it, or have it
>published, for all to verify, this was never done. Copies were made >of
it and are available from several sources, but it is
>difficult to establish any coherence in those phrases and notes. (see
>also: THY 3, p. 280)

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