Theos-Talk Archives (July 1998 Message tt00171)

>
> AND it has nothing whatsoever to do with EVOLUTION.   It has to do
> with the round of existence caused by at least 3 factors, A) Karma, B)
> Randomness and C) cos it's your turn.  In a universe of competition
> this is how the playing field is set level.  It doesn't look very fair
> over the short term but over the long, we can see how it works out.
> Not that we like it much.
>
>

I rather like this idea.


> Nothing to do with evolution.  The Soul does not and cannot evolve.
> Only bodies "evolve".  The soul is eternal, full of knowledge and
> bliss, this is covered and limited by the forms it inhabits and
> Prakti. (The inferior energy of God/material nature).
>

According to HPB the soul or reincarnating Ego does
evolve, else what would it do with the "aroma" of each
life lived? It is spirit that does not evolve.


>
> Suffering is part of the matrix of this Prakti universe.  You can't
> escape it by living as a material being, we have old age, disease and
> death on all the planes and levels of this universe.  The initiation
> of suffering is self inflicted.  We have joined this hellish dance of
> life by our own choice and we are suffering for it.  The fact there is
> any relief and happiness at all is the mercy of God.
>

I can't help but wonder why you feel the need to bring God
into this. I see suffering and pleasure as two sides of a
duality, and we suffer only because of our desire for
pleasure. God has nothing to do with it except insofar as
perhaps he created duality in the first place.


> We should of course try to ease suffering and help others but the best
> thing to do really,  is get out of the kitchen.
>

I agree if getting out of the kitchen means giving up pleasure
along with the suffering. You can't have one without the other.


> The more you go on about Evolution, the more off base you will be.
> It's claptrap.
>

Well, it certainly is maya or illusion, and I suppose
that this means claptrap in an absolute sense.


> There is no need to suffer, it is a consequence only of our being
> here.

It is, Is think, a consequence of our desire for pleasure, and
so we will suffer whenever and wherever such desire is harbored.


> Buddha  can go where he likes, seeing as the silly sod fell into yogic
> error.  Oh well,  perhaps in the next Kalpa he will know better!  He
> can shove his Nirvana where the sun doesn't shine.
>
> Allan.
>

Its already there my friend. Buddha got into trouble
when he tried to put Truth into words, as we all tend
to do from time to time. It can't be done, but here we
are all trying to do it anyway.

Jerry S.