Theos-Talk Archives (August 1998 Message tt00158)

Jerry Seinfield Wrote:
>Baloney. You are using the term initiation in a very narrow sense, and
>even them I still have to say baloney. There are countless billions of
>initiations--which means merely a new learning experience, but in
>our context a new spiritual experience. One need not die to have a
>spiritual experience.
>
>Jerry S.

NOS replies:
I sid ONE TRUE INITIATION. There are many 'spiritual experiences' which the
naive think are initiations - and yes one need not die to have a spiritual
experience - but what of it?

Unless you have died and I don't mean an NDE which is just another form of
hallucination (albeit very inisghtful into the true nature of reality) and
STOPPED COMPLETELY (laya state) - that is - all forms of change through
thought - you will still be embedded in MAYA. All thoughtis Mayavic, all
concepts are mayavic.

For those interested in performing self-initiations I suggest reading the
Rg Veda very thoroughly first and to understand what is meant by Vriti in
Chetna (forgive my spelling if slightly out I have 3 books with different
nomenclature). Then acquire some true SOMA. Do not attempt it by yourself
though.

But ask yourself, once I know everything and Understand completely (gnosis)
what do I wnat then?

Keep on Rocking

Dazza