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Re: theos-talk-digest V1 #381

Aug 19, 1998 02:50 PM
by Mike Perala


Kym wrote:

> Mika wrote:
>
> >I don`t know where all those uplifting thoughts come from. I haven`t
> >seen, or perceived in any other means either, anything or anybody,
> >thoughts just come. If you know, good for you.
>
> I don't know either from where uplifting thoughts come from nor, for that
> matter, where not-so-uplifting thoughts come from.  It would seem if I were
> to attribute uplifting thoughts to "messages from loving Discarnate Beings"
> I would have to also, to be consistent, contribute negative thoughts as
> being from "unloving Discarnate Beings."

Well, that would make sense with that logic. But,what kind of thoughts
would be our own then?




> >I just feel that I learn
> >more about myself and human nature as I live and communicate with my
> >fellow beings. These people are actually the 'best possible' teachers
> >for me right now.
>
> I have found that to apply to me also.  I prefer viewing spirituality in
> "action."

I`m beginning to see the value of that view myseld also. Up to now I`ve
talked much...

  I'm embarrassed to quote a movie - but, in the film "Forrest
> Gump" his mother said that "Stupid is as stupid does."  Well, to me,
> "spirituality is as spirituality does."  Words are abundant and can easily
> be masked to hide a hardened heart, however, most humans have a more
> difficult time hiding such a hardened heart when it comes to their actions;
> a person's actions will eventually reveal what it is they really believe
> and think.  Those humans who believe in Compassion and then actually live
> and practice it, are to me, the greatest Teachers and Inspirers.

My girlfriend and I were yesterday at Helsinki where Mata
Amritanandamayi or 'Mother Amma' gave a darshan. Her 'darshan' was
hugging people and she was very real with it. She is very compassionate
IMHO and does much social work in India and I can think her as a 'highly
spiritual person'. Whether she`s an avatara like people around her said,
I have  no idea, or any means to authenticate, but it`s not relevant
IMHO. Still itīs not my thing with all those rituals and seremonies and
mantras and so on.




> >I was not born with clair-voyance abilities of any
> >kind and I am not going to practice anything that would get me those
> >things. I think I`m better off them, don`t know about the future.
>
> With all science has discovered about the human mind and its frailties (and
> its powers), any visions or "voices" I perceived would immediately be
> subject to my personal doubt and scrutiny.  Did the "messages" come from a
> spiritual entity, my wishful thinking, or simply bad mutton?

'Mutton'?? You mean you`ve ate something spoiled?

 I could never
> be sure, so I find the absence of them more beneficial than not - although,
> to be honest, I am sometimes envious of those who claim a "direct link" to
> other spiritual planes.  But, then again, I invariably begin to wonder if
> there are documented mental breakdowns in their past. . ..

I have a tendency to be envious too, and I start very easily to create
all sorts of silly daydreams about 'what if I would be a
supernaturalparanormalnearlyadept if I`d follow some instructions how to
become psychic' or something else like that...


mika





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