Theos-Talk Archives (September 1998 Message tt00008)

Jake,

>         Your claim of Sutratman saying "It must have just been a mistake..."
> is the first I've heard of this.  Did he post it on this site?

Yes. Sometimes, not everybody gets all messages - it has happened to me -
but that is not the explanation here. The exact phrase was "You must have
forgotten" and it was used by Sutratman in theos-talk Digest 386 on 18
August 98, *and then quoted by you* in your response to Dallas. I reproduce
your exact message as I received it, below.

So you have seen "You must have forgotten", but appear to have forgotten,
yourself. That's no crime, of course, but I hope it will encourage you to
think that your initial interpretation of Dallas' actions mightn't be the
only possible one.

>I'm ashamed that not even one other person even mildly supported
>my issue.   Enough of this, it is now getting carried beyond that of a point
>and counterpoints being made....

While disagreeing firmly with your interpretations, I feel considerable
sympathy (not the gooey kind) for you as a person as well as the pain that
deliberate mis-gendering can cause, and thought I'd made that very clear in
the second half of my last message. I suggest you have another look at it
in that light.

Murray

> From: "Jake Jaqua" <barkus23@aol.com>
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:51:47 EDT
> Subject: Sutratma??

Dallas writes:

>As to "Sutratma"  I heard from him/her and they were going on a trip to
>India.  and may visit my sister in Bangalore [ Sophia TenBroeck  Email:
>sophia10@hotmail.com  ]

     As the apparently personal letter to you referred to was posted on Theos-
talk and he doesn't mention a wife/companion, I wonder why  you call Marshall
Heminway III ("SutratmaN")  "him/her".  Unless I'm misreading, its a rather
nasty thing to do isn't it?
        I tried seeing if he was on AOL, but got "no such screen-name" - so he
may have cancelled it after your post revealing his anonymity - which I don't
much care for, but guess is his right.  A rather strange thing to motivations
all around.
         -  I Have been off the list for a few days due to server problems and
gods-know- what.
               -  Jake J
            ".... to defend those unjustly accused (or hasseled)"

Sutratman post:

> Subj:	 ---private post---private post-----private post---private
> Date:	98-08-18 23:50:20 EDT
> From: "Marshall Hemingway III" <sutratman@aol.com>

Hi Dallas,

You must have forgotten.  My new screen name for Theos-Talk
is Sutratman.  I signed off as "Lmhem111" in Theos-Talk
after the chat site fell apart from the Alan Bain controversy.  My
identity is known only to Ramadoss, Eldon, yourself and Sophia.
I prefer to remain anonymous because of all personal invective
that goes on in theosophical chat rooms.  Something of an irony,
I must say !!!

My new screen name represents a newer "incarnation"
in the chat room, hence, the name "thread soul".  My
primary Screen Name still remains................
lmhem111@aol. com............so you can always email
me there as well.  In America Online, a subscriber can
have as many as FIVE different screen names or online
identities at the same time, a feature which other online
services don't offer.

I will be leaving for India in several weeks and will be staying
there a month.  I will be attending ULT in Bangalore on Friday
evening, September 25th and possibly Sunday evening.  I may
be staying at the Holiday Inn at 28 Sankey Road but I may have
to stay at another hotel if I get get a reservation there.

Best Wishes to you and Valerie
Marshall Heminway III (alias Sutratman)

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