Theos-Talk Archives (September 1998 Message tt00040)

Nicholas, I think you are right in pointing out about this state of
consciousness and HPB's views on the scientist. as you wrote

Nicholas Weeks wrote:
> No.  The entire context of HPB's Addena on 477-78 is that science knows
> nothing of the "living Forces" of Spirit and attributes "all to blind
> matter".  The passage concerning the dormant faculties is just pointing
> out what European & American scientists do *not* have.

Martin wrote:
But scientist who do have a great insight into the mysetries of the
Kosmos may fall into what is described in same book page 611- ending
with:

"The exact extent, depth, breath, and length of the mysteries of Nature
are to be found only in Eastern esoteric sciences. So vast and so
profound are these that hardly a few, a very few of the highest
Initiates -those whose very existence is known to a very small number of
Adepts- are capable of assimmilating the knowledge.  Yet it is all
there, and one by one facts and processes in nature's workshop are
permitted to find their way into exact Sciences,  while mysterious help
is given to rare individuals in unravelling its arcana."

I hope I am not quoting this out of place, but this may explain a lot
why 'discoveries' are made, by whom, and when ...
The language used in the above paragraph is also facinating, as if is
all predetermined:

' one by one fact ,'   &  'are permitted, "  & "help given to rare
individuals"

I also would like to know your (everybody please) opinion on who are
those Initiates and those Adepts. Which ones are HPB Masters. Are
Initiates names like Pyhtagoras, Plato,  G. Bruno, Bacon, Paracelsus,
etc????



To Jerry:
I love the words of 'Spirit Vision,' Are you refering theosophically to
Budhi-Manas?
I also understand the need of not discussing the actual experiences
since such visions are very personal, but then, at the same time they
belong to the collective experience.

Jerry wrote: "In my opinion, such a "transfer" is magic (astral travel
or
spirit vision, etc)"

Martin: Magic for sure, but here, to unveil ISIS (symbol of Nature)
requires some High Magic perharps.