Theos-Talk Archives (March 1999 Message tt00243)

Mar 18th

Gerry:

As far as I can determine "escaping from Karma" is a figurative
way of speaking.

One can not escape from "Space" we are forever in it.  Karma is
an aspect of space, or if you prefer the ABSOLUTE.  It is not
merely the applications of UNIVERSAL LAW to humans only.

It is universal as defined, and its particular attraction to the
human clan is that, in the development of a mind faculty that is
able to embrace the universe in terms of consciousness, the
prevalence and constant action of karma (as give and take,
actions and reaction) is to be grasped, understood and then
complied with.

I do not mean that freedom is in any way abridged.  I mean that
one voluntarily opts to serve and lend one's ability and capacity
to the great development of universal self-consciousness.

The compliance has to be voluntary and at no time does the human
relinquish his/her grasp on themselves as an INDIVIDUAL.  There
is the general picture of two types of action:

One:  the INDIVIDUAL WHO FIGHTS THE CONSTRAINTS OF UNIVERSAL LAW
and seeks to isolate and immobilize itself.

And, TWO, the picture of an EGO, which without loosing its
INDIVIDUALITY sees itself as a necessary component to Nature, and
also, recognizes that Nature needs it to assist, so that it has a
niche to fill.  And it is then that it sets to work to fill it.

It is the picture of a free man who accepts the position of a
trustee, of an essential part in a vast living whole, and seeks
to perform the best he can in the place where he is most needed.

This alone leads to greatness and perfection, as I understand it.
It is a long way and takes perhaps an aeon or so, but what is an
aeon  of time to an immortal ?

That is all I have in mind, and all I got from Theosophy so far.


Dal

-----Original Message-----
From:	owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com
[mailto:owner-theos-talk@pippin.imagiware.com] On Behalf Of
Gerald Schueler
Sent:	Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:56 AM
To:	theos-talk@theosophy.com
Subject:	Theos-World Is There An Escape From Karma?

>What is the fact ?  Not, "What is the way to escape
unpleasantness ?">

Dallas, we still seem to be at odds here. I completely
agree with the "original" Theosophical teachings and
yet disagree with you, or what is more likely your
interpretation.

You constantly harp on the impossibility to "escape"
from karma, and yet this is exactly the message of
Buddha who taught that indeed, there is an escape.
Its usually called liberation. Nirvana is an escape
from samsara, and this is the goal of many. But the
Great Perfection school together with HPB taught
that we must be liberated even from nirvana.

Jerry S.



















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