Theos-Talk Archives (April 1999 Message tt00048)

>>HERE I DISAGREE AS NOT EVEN THE UNIVERSE CAN PASS FROM PRALAYA TO
MANVANTARA WITHOUT A CAUSE, AND TO ME THAT CAUSE IS AN ASPECT OF
KARMA WHICH IS AN INSEPARABLE PART OF THE ABSOLUTENESS. >>

We can always agree to disagree, can't we?  Why can't
one manvantara beget another via cause and effect
without bringing Absoluteness into the picture? HPB shows
a wonderful figure in the SD of the lifewaves on the Globes 
of the Moon going over to the Globes of the Earth all
within the same 7-plane universe.


>>IN FACT TO BE EVEN MORE "OBSCURE" ONE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY THAT ANY
LIMITATION OF MANIFESTATION IS CAUSED BY SOME PRIOR CHOICE/IMPOSED
MODIFICATION, OF WHICH THERE IS A MEMORY IMPACTED
IN AKASA AND WHICH THEREAFTER FORMS A BASE FOR KARMA INDIVIDUAL OR
COLLECTIVE TO MANIFEST ALSO.>>

Agreed. Are you aware that akasa is within our 7-plane
solar system?  That the shistas are too? There is just no need
to suggest that Karma can exist outside our 7-plane system
and to do so would fly in the face of Buddhist doctrine,
which is not necessary here. I do agree, however, that
SOMETHING must exist. All we really need is the desire
to self-express or self-manifest. If we can assume that
creativity is a divine attribute, then it would all be explained
without karma.  Karma is time dependent and it is just
plain illogical to suggest that something time-dependent
can exist outside of time.
But I think that when we start talking about reimbodying
manvantaras, we may be getting in over our heads. Its
certainly over mine.

Jerry S

                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                      

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