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Theos-World RE: your message

Aug 27, 1999 02:25 AM
by W. Dallas TenBroeck


Aug 26th 1999
 
Dear Aidan:
 
Just started reading your answer (below).
 
No, I do not believe in any way that there is a "dumbing down" level of sameness.  That ought to be most strongly discouraged in all possible ways.  Rather, because of the concept of unlimited perfectibility in the future, realizable by the Reincarnating Soul/Mind, there ought to be always a leveling up to the highest level of thought and action we can aspire to in our present situation.  And of course that requires some precision rather than the presentation of some other cloud of rosy color and unrealizable hopes.
 
I am not convinced that political or social views of today are the answer to improvement.  They seek, as I read, to achieve general definitions almost on a statistical basis, of the mass movements that can be employed to "motivate" people, or in some cases, to enslave them.  Simply because people, regardless of what they espouse verbally (or even conceptually in a superficial manner for the moment), will chose to act exactly as they want when the time comes for making decisions.  The freedom of the individual can be restricted or minimized, or impaired, but freedom as FREEDOM cannot be entirely eradicated.  Eventually there will be a reformation or a revolution against over "control" (whether this be subtle, political or blatant and dictatorial).
 
We who may consider and look at "mass actions" may, for our convenience, ascribe to that mass movement (and its many eddies) descriptive adjectives which satisfy us, and enable us to exchange views using the shortened of social and psychological science. 
 
But the importance of the individual, and his progress and power of decision and power of independent thinking ought not to be disregarded or in any way diminished.  The individual will still be the individual and will make his decisions, using, in general, and at his own level of development the same kind of faculties that we share in general. 
 
In fact the "mass" is made up of the sum of all those individuals.  In fact much of the "control" that governments exert on their populace by means of internal spying, secret police-work etc.. is the attempt to identify and isolate or neutralize that should have the capacity to be fiercely independent and through that capacity, motivates others to commence thinking about the causes of their restrictions and limitations. 
 
I do not know if you are familiar with Thomas Paine and his writings which motivated and sustained two revolutions -- the American and the French.  But he has always appeared to me as one of the key figures of those events and that age.  Of course there were others, and many different causes have also been identified that served to accentuate the unrest of the "rabble."  Gandhi is another example that jumps to my mind as I write this.
 
What a study of Theosophical principles does (as I see it) is to focus on such things as those that any individual can do for his environment, his friends, his nation, and for himself.  The self-generated abilities and improvements over his situation and origins, need to be considered in terms of their general benevolence or malevolence, (moral terms again - judgmental - but judgmental in the broadest and most "universal" sense) and not solely in terms of the disruption to the even flow of governmental control. 
 
Do people need a government?  Only the unruly do.  The majority who are very inert on the whole, are content to be left alone.  They grumble about paying taxes and supporting a beaurocrasy, but they do not crate a revolution.  It is those who ask if it is necessary to do this, that make all the trouble.  And so society establishes a control system which becoming in due time morally corrupt is toppled, usually with much shedding of blood.
 
In my esteem there is a severe lack of being able to estimate the general and broad purpose of life (both individually and as a mass), and the situation in the Universe that confronts us all.  We are not, in my view, "just social animals," but we are burgeoning "gods."  Anything that lifts us (as mind endowed humans) out of the jog-trot of the ordinary, to consider ideals and general principles, is valuable.
 
I would say that this Universe and world that we live in, is a "moral universe."  Using the word moral to mean universal and incontrovertible ethics -- the "virtues," as applied in a true brotherhood.  All communities of whatever size represent some kind of brotherhood, be the rules and laws recorded or not. 
 
All jurists, legislators, voters, non-voters, recognize (as does everyone else) that there are certain degrees of fairness which everyone is supposed to observe in dealings with others.  If one's "secret thoughts and feelings" were not secret, but made public the moment they were formulated, how many of us would pass the test of altruism and friendliness? 
do we always put forth our true thoughts and feelings concerning others and situations in the world?  Or do we hide them?  If so, why?  What impels us to conceal instead of reveal?
Look at the wonderful sayings of Jesus embodied for all to read in the "Sermon on the Mount."  Many call themselves "Christians."  do they use and apply those statements of divine ethics to the letter ?  How can they expect Jesus to "save" them if they do not honor him?  It is the same with every theology.  Take also Government, regardless of the country, how many of its "servants" obey to the letter the laws of their Nation?  Do "Government servants" serve the people or themselves whenever it is convenient?  Some do, and many fail.
 
The refuge of "evil," conscious or unconscious, is darkness, concealment, deviousness and secrecy.  Those who have evil motives seek to disguise them using the appearance of benevolence.  Thus the highest tribute is constantly paid to that which is just, true, fair and honorable by those who are dishonest.  Hypocrisy and concealment causes 9/10ths (my guesstimate) of the problems of our Earth, its governments, and personal relationships.
 
I have read several of your todays' posts.  You use of course the shorthand of politics:  liberalism, conservatism, communism, etc... in your discourses on history, war, international conflicts of the past, and the present situation.  In my view these do not entirely reflect the nature of any individual, although they may broadly describe some system of beliefs he (and a group) has/have accepted, and, for his/their fancied convenience, has/have more or less temporarily adopted. 
 
What the true inner man and what his convictions are, and upon what basis he guides his life and makes continual choices, is known only to himself in the deepest, most secret center of his consciousness.  That is what I think ought to be investigated by each individual for himself.  Such investigation is not (it cannot) to be conducted by outsiders, however skilled.  A true interpretation of an individual's motive can only be honestly revealed and seen interiorly.  No one ever speaks of himself except in terms that he hopes will give the correspondent an idea of his virtues and successes. 
 
As I look back over the history of various theologies, (as well as political and national actions) I witness the determined effort, in various ways, to secure a control over human minds.  The best way is to keep the "masses" ignorant, and therefore fearful.  The next best way is to instill a love for their country, community, family, and develop a trust in the leadership and promulgated ideals thereof.  But nowhere (with very few exceptions) is the developing mind of the young encouraged to active independence, nor do I find the science of "thinking" taught with any continued enthusiasm as a sine qua non of true improvement.
 
Our education provides us with masses of details, but does not necessarily tell us what to do with them, nor is there a basic science that demonstrates the fact that
 
1.  Nature contains all;
 
2,  We are investigating her laws and operations already in place;
 
3.  Every feeling, thought, word and act sends waves of change over not only ourselves but out to affect others,  We are responsible for those changes.
 
4.  Nature being affected, responds by sending us the effects of our choices, sooner or later.
 
5.  We are immortals (as mind and souls) living in mortal and very vulnerable bodies.  Additionally we are burdened with the feelings of a highly refined instinct, which has (as an innate faculty resident in itself) no sense of the future effects of its many desires and wants.
 
6.  As minds we are able to remember and anticipate.  The active mind maintains the knife-edge balance between these and deals, if it is wise, with the unbridled emotions and feelings in its own nature.  It exercises a wise self-control if once it realizes that this emotional self is its greatest (yet resident) enemy.
7.  It is the Mind of man, which trained and refined to include the widest possible areas of actuality and causality, that is able to encompass the Universe, its many potentials, and all Nature (as living independent/interdependent facts), and anticipate an ultimate perfectibility for itself, if it is able to maintain its integrity and purity of purpose in self-development.
 
If this sounds too much like a kind of megalomania, then consider that for most theologies the attributes of "God" are omnipresence, omniscience and omnipotence. 
 
Present everywhere (so therefore Deity is present at the core of every human as of every other being -- from Atom to Galaxy). 
 
Omniscience -- so Deity knowing everything and able therefore to handle the individual Karma of every being without fault -- one might say perhaps the perfect computer that is Itself the COMPUTER. 
 
Omnipotence -- the power and force to generate and regenerate itself, to fold and refold all materials and compounds, to perceive the core nature of each being and to assign it to its natural cooperative position with all the rest.  [ Our physical body is a good example of this, where all is arranged independently of our attention for us.  We are tenants in a most complex and wonderful dwelling that is self-repairing and self-renewing, yet for all its innate intelligence, it is is subject to either our whims or our wisdom.  What are "WE?"
 
Omnipresence -- is this not the innate sense of cooperation and the desire to "serve" that one finds resident in ourselves as well as observe present in other beings?
 
I mentioned "perfection."  Supposing that this might be the total comprehension of this grand design innate to all things ?  Does this not imply that the "mind" of man if impersonalized, might eventually (after many incarnations) be able to achieve this position, and therefore enter into a closer kind of assistant to NATURE as the end all and be all ?
 
But who drives and monitors the "mind?"  I ask this because the mind is to it a tool.  There fore I think that the ancient Hermes had a point when he said, so enigmatically:  "Man, know thyself."
 
Now I know that this is heterodox, and quite far from that which is taught in general in our academies and schools.  But then, in my esteem they are biased by having been directed solely to the material side of Nature -- the effect side, from which, without metaphysics to assist, the possibility of deriving causal and therefore ethical conclusions is almost impossible.
 
To offset any kind of pride, one must have the humility to realise that any expression is limited and faulty -- limited by language, experience, aspiration, desire, memory, and a million other factors -- yet, withal that, there is the Individual, the "I-ness," which has to have some kind of logical reason and explanation.  And, add to that, the recognition that everything else in Nature either was, is or will be eventually, a Mind-human.
 
I hope that this makes some sense to you.  I think I got carried away by some of the things I have read -- and thought it a good opportunity to say something on behalf of a Theosophical education.and what it can achieve, at least as an independent perspective.  I would say that all I writ on is derived in some way from the study of Theosophy which I have prosecuted for over 50 years without any flagging of interest.
 
 Best  wishes to you in lovely Yorkshire -- of which I have read excellent accounts -- so that I believe you do enjoy it -- and I certainly would like to pay a visit -- but not at this stage of my life -- as physically I am now very limited in mobility.
 
Dallas

dalval@nwc.net 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Aidan Rankin [mailto:aidanr@dircon.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:11 PM
To: W. Dallas TenBroeck
Subject: Re: your message

Dear Dallas
I was very pleased to receive your message and hear about your background, especially as I am a book-lover.  Your experience of living and working in Asia explains your wide knowledge and understanding, as reflected in your very fine writing. Like you, I am a 'generalist'.  I agree with your idea of a co-operative universe, knowledge of which is more likely to be found amongst primitive than sophisticated peoples, and peasant populations rather than intellectuals.  However I do not believe that universalism means sameness, equality or levelling-down.  I also value diversity of religious belief and practice.  My cultural conservatism makes me differ from many of the pioneers of modern Theosophy, but I believe is more in tune with the larger theosophical tradition, which is about the conservation of ancient knowledge.
You would be very welcome to visit my country, and this beautiful county of Yorkshire, to read, discuss, argue, talk - or whatever you wished.
Best Wishes.
Aidan
 
PS.  I enjoyed hearing about your background.  I have Irish and Scottish as well as English.  Although I grew up in the South of England I am now an 'honorary Yorkshireman' and when I'm asked where I'm from I say 'Yorkshire'.  For many years I lived in London and I keep a small place there for work reasons.  My mother has a little German blood which might be Bavarian.  I have lived in South America (Uruguay) whilst doing research for my doctorate.  My new job as a Research Fellow in Latin American Politics, will take me to Argentina. One of my ambitions is to travel down to Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego, preferably at the most blustery time of year as this type of weather inspires me (we have lots of it in Yorkshire, I can tell you).  A
 

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