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Re: Theos-World swastika, counterclockwise, theosophical seal

Feb 21, 2000 09:26 PM
by barrett culmback



Jim Rodak wrote:

> Greetings:
>
>     I have followed the discussion on the +ACI-swastika+ACI- symbol with interest.
> Needless to say, it has been an education re: the theosophical
> interpretation of the symbol.  Does anyone have definitive knowledge as to
> when and why the German Nazi regime adopted the symbol and what it was
> supposed to represent in their movement?  I do not intend this question to
> be a springboard into a long, drawnout discussion re: The Third German Reich
> or Naziism.     Respectfully,  Jim Rodak

You might try looking for the book "The Morning of the Magicians" by Bergier and (someone whose
name I've forgotten).  Believe it's out of print, but it may be searchable on the Web (e.g.,
http://www.alltheweb.com).  It has quite a long section pertaining to your question.



>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: +ACI-Eugene Carpenter+ACI- +ADw-ecarpent+AEA-co.la.ca.us+AD4-
> To: +ADw-theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com+AD4-
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World swastika, counterclockwise, theosophical seal
>
> +AD4- Thankyou, Peter,
> +AD4-
> +AD4- I wonder too.  Why would the official seal have it one way and then
> another.
> +AD4-
> +AD4- Here at the L.A. County Dept. of Corner I occassionaly see where a violent
> +AD4- young man has all these symbols of hate and death tattooed on his body and
> +AD4- then there will be this home-made swastika meant to be the Nazi symbol but
> +AD4- turning the wrong way and meaning the opposite of that intended.
> +AD4-
> +AD4- Sincerely,
> +AD4- Eugene
> +AD4- -----Original Message-----
> +AD4- From: Peter Merriott +ADw-caduceus+AEA-dial.pipex.com+AD4-
> +AD4- To: theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com +ADw-theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com+AD4-
> +AD4- Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:16 PM
> +AD4- Subject: RE: Theos-World swastika, counterclockwise, theosophical seal
> +AD4-
> +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-Hi Eugene,
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-Fortunately there is a copy of the Secret Doctrine on line at:
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/tup-onl.htm
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-As to the different directions of the swastika - the one on page 99 in
> SD
> +AD4- II is the opposite direction to the one on the cover of the same SD, even
> in
> +AD4- the original edition.  I wonder if it depends on whether we are on the
> +AD4- outside looking in, or the inside looking out?  I suppose we could say
> with
> +AD4- these two actual symbols that one is on the 'outside' while the other
> (p99)
> +AD4- is on the inside, but that is just speculation on my part.
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-best wishes
> +AD4- +AD4-...Peter
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4-
> +AD4- +AD4APg- -----Original Message-----
> +AD4- +AD4APg- From: owner-theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com
> +AD4- +AD4APg- +AFs-mailto:owner-theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com+AF0-On Behalf Of Eugene Carpenter
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Sent: 21 February 2000 18:28
> +AD4- +AD4APg- To: theos-talk+AEA-theosophy.com
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Subject: Re: Theos-World swastika, counterclockwise, theosophical seal
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Dear Peter,
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Thankyou very much.  You didn't type all this out of a book did you?
> Is
> +AD4- +AD4APg- there a copy of the Secret Doctrine on CD ROM available?
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4APg- But.  What I'm curious about is why the seal of the Theosophical
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Society has
> +AD4- +AD4APg- a clockwise swastika which seems correct, but many books published by
> the
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Pasadena group have a seal with the counterclockwise symbol in the
> seal.
> +AD4- +AD4APg- This latter seems a mistake.  It seems to me that someone made a
> +AD4- +AD4APg- mistake and
> +AD4- +AD4APg- misprinted the seal.  No one will explain this.
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Thanks for the information.
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Sincerely,
> +AD4- +AD4APg- Eugene
> +AD4- +AD4APg-
> +AD4- +AD4-
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