Theos-Talk Archives (April 2000 Message tt00073)

Dennis-----

If you're not aware of theosophical history, you'll be mislead by Mr 
Tenbroeck's assertions.  For ex., Mr Tenbroeck wrote on Mr Crosbie:-------

"No claims on his behalf or by him have been made."

Mr Tenbroeck is writing nonsense & he knows it since I've previously 
informed him.

Here are claims made for Mr Crosbie by ULT.

"Robert Crosbie preserved unbroken the link of the Second Section [the 
Esoteric School] of the Theosophical Movement from the passing of Mr. Judge 
in 1896, and in 1907--just eleven years later--made that link once more Four 
Square amongst men. In the year 1909 the Third Section was restored by the 
formation of the United Lodge of Theosophists...." Theosophy magazine, 
Volume 7, page 289

"There is always one Witness on the scene. After the death of Mr. Judge, 
Robert Crosbie kept the link unbroken. . . .None at the time suspected, and 
none has to this day suspected, that the quiet, earnest, steadfast man whose 
heart and soul were assimilated to the nature of H.P.B. and W.Q.J. was to be 
in fact the AGENT for the regeneration of  the Theosophical Movement on the 
lines laid down from the beginning by the Masters. H.P.B. was the Creator, 
W.Q.J. was the Preserver, and Robert Crosbie was the Regenerator of pure 
Theosophy."  Bold added.

"[Mr Crosbie]. . . identified himself with the DZYAN [Esoteric] section of 
the Theosophical Movement and the T.S., and was for many years the devoted 
and CLOSE Companion of William Q. Judge, and an OCCULT pupil of H.P. 
Blavatsky. . . ." Theosophy magazine, 1919, Volume 7, page 320

"Mr Robert Crosbie. . . had the benefit of direct training and instruction 
from both H.P.B. and Mr. Judge."

In Theosophy magazine for November 1929, U.L.T. writer proclaims "the 
glorious example of Masters' MESSENGERS to the world, the Transmitters of 
the Wisdom-Religion. Among These, and in our own time and country: H.P. 
Blavatsky, William Q. Judge, and Robert Crosbie. . . ."

Mr Tenbroeck has claimed:-----

"Considering the CLOSE relationship that existed between Mr. Crosbie and Mr 
Judge, and the SPECIAL position that Mr. Crosbie occupies in the 
Theosophical Movement of modern times, one wonders whether Mr. Crosbie might 
not be considered a 'shepherd' who was following HIS straying 'flock" [Mrs 
Tingley's Point Loma TS and its members?]. And when that 'flock' dispersed 
[when Crosbie was expelled by Mrs Tingley?], the 'shepherd' went in search 
of a new one [the parent United Lodge of Theosophists which Crosbie 
founded?]."


Dennis, these are claims.  The implication of these assertions is Mr Crosbie 
followed in Mr Judge's footsteps, Mr Crosbie was the "successor" to Mr 
Judge, Mr Crosbie somehow safeguarded the Esoteric School, Mr Crosbie was 
shepherd (teacher) & Mr Crosbie was the Messenger of the Masters.

See if Mr Tenbroeck will answer these questions.

How did Mr Crosbie preserve the "link" of the Esoteric School during the 
years 1896 through 1907? And how was that link made "once more Four Square 
amongst men"? How did Mr Crosbie preserve unbroken the Esoteric link from 
1896 to 1904 during the years when he was a devoted follower and vigorous 
defender of the claims of Mrs Katherine Tingley, whom Crosbie had repeatedly 
acknowledged as the TRUE Outer Head of the Second Section? Bear in mind that 
Crosbie after 1904 and ULT history book trashes Mrs Tingley.

More on this in articles:-----

http://members.tripod.com/davidgreen_2/Introduction.html

http://members.tripod.com/davidgreen_2/specialstatus.html

For last 2 yrs Mr Tenbroeck has refused to comment on these documents 
written by ULT officials or on my questions.

Mr Tenbroeck recommends to you:------

"If you desire to read about the history of the Theosophical
Movement, then I would recommend THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT --
1875 - 1950.  ($ 6.50) --  Available through:   Theosophy
Company, 245 W. 3rd St., Los Angeles, Ca., 90007.  It is entirely
based on documents."

Dennis, problem is important documents are ignored in THE THEOSOPHICAL 
MOVEMENT.  Compare those in my articles. Mr Tenbroeck refuses to deal with 
omitted documents or to answer my questions.

Visit my site http://members.tripod.com/davidgreen_2/

David Green

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