Theos-Talk Archives (July 2001 Message tt00170)

All the more reason to go back to the study of theosophy solely as presented 
by the Ancient Masters in the book of Dzyan, and thoroughly covered, along 
with all commentaries and comparative religious references, in the original 
writings of HPB. From such study, one can form their own decisions on who of 
the later "interpreters" that came after Blavatsky are right or wrong. 

It seems that among all the diverse TM groups, only ULT -- not an organized 
"theosophical society," but as a free association of independent students 
whose only obligation is "that which they, themselves (individually) 
determine" -- sanctions this truly occult and free thinking approach. 

This, along with the yoga meditational practices taught by Patanjali coupled 
with the yoga teachings of Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita ( explained 
thoroughly for English speaking students by WQJ and RC) -- and barring a 
living Master who can give "mouth to ear" instruction -- is the only way to 
achieve "initiation" and true self realization or enlightenment in this age 
of deafening, confusing and spiritually drowning materialism... All, further 
exacerbated by the jockeying for position, disciples, and money by the 
myriad's of false "New Age" prophets, "gurus," theosophical reinterpreters, 
and organized religion (or politically) oriented neo-theosophical pundits -- 
who drown us in further mental confusion. 

I hope we can all (including this and other online forums) soon get off this 
incessant argumentation about past organizational and personal history, and 
get back down to the basic study and understanding of pure theosophy -- along 
with discussing its practical applications (both individually and 
collectively) in awakening "the group Mind of the race" to the true nature of 
reality and the full understanding of the scientific basis and true purpose 
and meaning of "karma" and "reincarnation" -- as originally purposed by HPB 
in her three objects of the TS, as well as in her "Messages to American 
Theosophists." (Which I suggest we all go back to and reassess.)

LHM 

In a message dated 07/18/01 10:34:06 AM, ringding@blinx.de writes:

>>I am very much a new student of theosophy and although
>>I understand the works of HPB and others there is one
>>thing I am confused about which I hope someone can
>>clarify for me: what is the difference between the
>>different theosophy societies, such as DES and ULT,
>>and why there is a difference.
>>
>>mic
>
>There were many Theosophists who claimed to have their teachings from direct
>communication with the Masters. Nevertheless they all contradict. So only
>one side could be right as there is but one Truth on not two or more.
>Each lineage believes they are genuine and the others are frauds.
>
>At Adyar Besant and Leadbeater claimed to have communications from the
>Masters. ULT, Point Loma, Pasadena
>believe they lie.
>
>Point Loma, Pasadena and ULT say that Judge and HPB are genuine. Adyar
>says
>Judge lies and HPB perhaps also (at least Adyar spreads teachings which
>are
>opposite to HPB).
>
>Point Loma and Pasadena say that Tingley and Purucker had genuine
>communication with the Masters. ULT and Adyar believe not.
>
>Pasadena says Long and Conger had genuine communication with the Masters.
>Point Loma, ULT and Adyar believe not.
>Frank