Theos-Talk Archives (August 2001 Message tt00180)

Dear Doss
Is there anything so really wrong in Theosophical websites not advertising
Steiner, Bailey, Krishnamurti, etc.? Why do you find it so refreshing?
Most people that come to Theosophy find their way to many other religions,
leaders, and systems. That is the nature of theosophy. When going to a
Krishnamurti/Steiner/Bailey website, to what extent do they link into
Theosophical websites???

There was one Steiner book we were trying to obtain, and when obtaining a
recent reprint, every time the word Theosophy came up in the early edition,
it had been obliterated from the reprint and changed to anthroposophy, or
some similar kind of word. All mention of the word theosophy was removed?

This is not at all surprising.

I have just over the last few days been corresponding with a friend about
Steiner in response to some query, and it is easier just to copy it across:

<<<RE: STEINER...

The translation you make from Steiner is good and interesting. Can't find
a title by him "Anthropology - Science of Man," but will think further.

In Cranston's "H.P.B.", things like:
"In his autobiography, written two years before his death in 1925, he is
quite insistent (as have been his followers ever since) that before, during,
and after his association with the TS he has always pursued his own line of
teaching and was not in any way influenced by Theosophy"
BUT
"In a letter to Maria Sivers (August 20, 1902), Steiner wrote: "'The Secret
Doctrine' has duly arrived and lies on my desk; it is very useful in my
relevant studies, and I consult it continually." "..........
"As late as June 21, 1909, Steiner wrote:". . . the Stanzas of Dzyan and the
Mahatma letters have still not been understood fully by a long way, and they
should therefore be studied intensively, belonging as they do to the
greatest wisdom revealed during the evolution of mankind."...and so on.>>>

The subject arose from an interesting comment Steiner had made in one of his
books (and relates to mad cow disease):
""XYZ came across an interesting section in one of the above's (Steiner's)
writings in Italian - under sustenance and conscience - perhaps you already
know of it ?? Anyway, translation goes - "In the good operate determinate
energies; produced from the vegetation she becomes meat (transformed).
Imagine if this cow would eat meat - what would happen? The energy that she
tries to dispose of is not utilised and produces something that is quite
different from the transformation of vegetation into animal substance. This
provokes in the animal an accumulation of discarded substances of any type;
instead meat comes to be created negative substances; dangerous uric acid
and salts of uric acids ... which have a weakness for the nervous system and
brain ... and the cow becomes mad; the horse becomes furious.""

Even though the Steiner followers may find it necessary to erase the word
Theosophy from their translations, it doesn't mean that theosophists are too
prejudiced to read his books. Someone who goes to a Steiner website would
go because he wants to know about Steiner, and wouldn't expect or want to
find links to the Muslim religion or Marx.

Do the Krishnamurti websites point to the Mahatma Letters...the 7 principles
in man, etc.??? What are their views about Masters? Are they actually
anything like as broad as the Theosophical websites??? Do they point to the
Mahatmas and to the Secret Doctrine? Or do they point to Krishnamurti and
what he said, and to his philosophy. I have been to listen to Krishnamurti
on several occasions, he was beautiful to listen to, and a remarkable
person. Is there anything wrong in going to a Krishnamurti website and
finding only things about Krishnamurti?

HPB points to the ancient wisdom, and she never makes any claim to it being
hers. She points to Universal Brotherhood...to helping suffering mankind.

Tony




-----Original Message-----
From: ramadoss@infohwy.com [mailto:ramadoss@infohwy.com]
Sent: 18 August 2001 4:15 am
To: theos-l@list.vnet.net; theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Theosophical Society in Boston


I visited the website of Theosophical Society in Boston (which is an
independent organization with no connection with other theosophical
organizations) and was very impressed to see the info provided in the
website. In addition to links to TS in America (Adyar), TS (Pasadena)
and United Lodge of Theosophists, there are materials/references to
Alice Bailey, Krishnamurti, Rudolf Steiner, etc. and I was very pleased
to see open minded approach that is patent.

Over the last 100 years, one can see that each TS organization has
isolated itself from others and even today one can judge for oneself by
visiting their websites and seeing the kind of links or lack of links
that you find to other organizations.

In this environment, it is a breath of fresh air to see the open minded
approach taken by the TS in Boston and should be congratulated. It is my
hope that in the future, in our lifetime, we will see that the walls
crumble due to the Internet environment populated by upcoming generation
weaned on Internet.

TSB can be reached at http://www.townonline.com/tol/commconn/ and search
for the theosophy site.

mkr




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