Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00296)

Frank: I said that there is evidence in US National Archives in the 
Gestapo chief Mueller files that both Mueller and Hitler survived 
1945 and that the Nazis were flying Rundflugzeuge which are publicly 
usually labeled as (un-)known flying objects. And this since 1941 
when the first prototype of Andreas Epp was flying on a flight show 
at the German Air Command under Hermann Goering.
Until now you were not able to present ONE evidence against that
level-headed arguments. All you said about the Gestapo files in USA 
and the Rundflugzeuge is gossip but not argument.

Brigitte: I did posted an internet translation (that Morten attempted 
to block) of the 2e part (Frank only comented on the 1e) of the 
STEFFEN WERNER analysis that clearly shows the Heinrich Mueller 
evidence Frank cites is a flasification.

There are many books as the one Frank cites by Gregory, and 
it often takes time to track down the genesis and evolution of such 
information.

An example of this i also quoted is the so called "Byrd diary's" wich
where faked by a theosophist (or at least that is what he called 
himself) who at least for some time went by the name of Captain 
Bernhard (as far a I remember) who later also co-wrote a book about 
the "H.Grail" 
and how Skorzene helped to remove it from France, and a "black
sun" secret society that was meeting at various places in the world, 
and that was in the possesion of the "real" lanz of Longines
that pierced the side of Christ, and so on. (no not the book by 
Ravenscroft)

In any case, the point is that Admiral Byrd did indeed exist, 
whowever questionable is the mention in there of "the domain of
the Arianni",. and the "Flugelrads" (wingwheels) that were noted in 
this secret log of Admiral Richard E. Byrd.

Somewhere along the way there had been added an expedition that no 
history book had even mentioned … a 1947 Arctic expedition.
For starters February (the month the expedition is claimed to have 
taken place) is the dead of winter in the Arctic with it's well
known 24 hours of darkness and unpredictable flying weather. However, 
the biggest negative ruling out a February 1947 Arctic expedition by 
Admiral Byrd was the indisputable fact that he was smack dab in the 
middle of the command of his life "Operation Highjump,"
The operation made front-page headlines around the world with reports 
about the Admirals personal movements broadcast around the world 
daily from January 2nd until his return to America on April 14th 
1947. This would have made a North Polar flight during this time 
impossible.

The first mention of a 1947 North Polar flight by the Admiral can be 
found in the book Worlds beyond the Poles: Physical Continuity of the 
Universe (1959) by a controversial self-proclaimed scientist, F. 
Amadeo Giannini. On page 13 of his book under the heading "The 
Changing Scene 1927-1947" he presents a list of things that
happened during those years to support his theory. One of the entries 
is;
"1947: February "I'd like to see that land beyond the
pole. The area beyond the pole is the center of the great unknown." – 
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd before his seven-hour flight over land 
beyond the North Pole." .
Not only was this the first time a 1947 flight ever mentioned, but 
this also seems to be the origin of this often used quote attributed 
to Admiral Byrd and used later in various ways.

The actual source of this quote was probably an article that 
appeared in the October 1947 National Geographies Magazine 
titled "Our Navy Explores Antarctica," in which The Admiral
refers several times to the "Mystery Land beyond The Pole" although
not in the sequence of words presented by Giannini. And most 
importantly of all … Byrd was talking about Antarctica.
Contrary to popular belief, Giannina was not a believer in the Hollow 
Earth. Nor is his book, Worlds beyond the Poles, a Hollow Earth book

In 1928 Admiral Byrd published his account of the 1926 North polar 
flight in a book titled Skyward. On page 196 Byrd reveals the 
following information:
"When our calculations showed us to be about an hour from the
Pole, I noticed through the cabin window a bad leak in the oil tank 
of the starboard motor. When I took the wheel again I kept my eyes 
glued on the oil leak and the oil pressure indicator."
Compare this information to the following passage from the so-
called "secret diary."
(Page 2) "--- Hours: Slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil 
pressure indicator seems normal, however."
Once again, the odds of Admiral Byrd having the exact same problem 
with the same engine on two different flights 11 years apart is 
verry smal one should say.

And if one next looks at a video copy of the 1937 MGM motion 
picture "Lost Horizon," and the scene where the star,Ronald 
Coleman has an audience with the Dali Lama in Shangra-La, a lost city 
in Tibet. The Master tells him that there "is a dark time
coming" but that:
"You, my son, (said the Master), "will live through the
storm. You will preserve the fragrance of our history and add to it a 
touch of your own mind. Beyond that, my vision weakens … but I see in 
the great distance a new world starting in the ruins … But in 
hopefulness, seeking it's lost and legendary treasures, and they
will all be here, my son, hidden behind the mountains under the blue 
moon, preserved as if by a miracle…"
Now, according to "The Secret Diary of Admiral Richard E.
Byrd," was a meeting between The Admiral and the "Master" of the 
Arianni;
"Yes, my son," replied the Master, "the dark ages that
will come for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I 
believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond 
that I cannot say. 
We see a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your 
race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here 
my son, safe in our keeping…"

One will find the same pattern with other books of this genre. As is 
shown in the 2e part of the STEFFEN WERNER analysis to wich Frank has 
not responded.

Brigitte