Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00122)

Oct 14 2002

Dear Christina:

Karma neither "good" or "bad" it is (as an impersonal law) invariable.

It is like a wall returning to us the ball we just batted against it.
The angle at which the ball returns is determined by the way we did
the aiming.

Nature is that super-sensitive wall, it is made up of all the
uncountable "little lives" -- su-atmic forces and powers -- and on
analysis, we can see that every one of the "little lives" -- the so
many Monads -- is a small life we affect by our choices.
How does this work? All Nature has great and small laws. All tend to
progress. It is but natural that nature shares out some of her
responsibilities to those parts of her being that are developing the
power to think and to choose. We (as minds) are in such a situation,
each of us, as humans.

But we are also evolving. We are not "perfect." We are evolving at
this stage out of the region of Kama (desire and instinct) into the
region of the Higher Mind where Buddhi or Wisdom operates, and assists
the embodied human Mind, to become a DIVINE MIND like itself.

The above that I describe takes care of our errors and gives us an
opportunity to redress them, and learn. Of course there is more
emphasis in our way of feeling on the things that hurt, rather than on
those that are pleasant -- and which most accept as a "windfall" or
our due.

We either make them (the little lives) into an improvement or we
mishandle and misshape them. They have the faculty of immediate
response to any energy directed at, or through them. Thus one of
these faculties is memory, and another is their adaptability and
pliability, as they will accept and adopt any shape we may mentally
assign them to. -- as memory, in a general way, we can say they serve
us now and in the future. If we misshape them, then the effect will
be that they, acting as our faithful instruments, distort and blur
our future perception and capacity of action.

Incidentally at the end of the little book LIGHT ON THE PATH there is
a splendid illustrative essay on karma. It is well worth a read. I
think it is available on line through BLAVATSKY NET.

I hope this may help,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: chris
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002
To:
Subject: RE: Right, wrong, fear,to forget and to remember

I see the point; and, further, we could say that the process and
result
of forgiving/forgiveness, does slow down the karmic wheel's spin.
When
we are truly forgiving, we are neutralizing negative, and at the same
time enforcing our understanding of the way divine justice works.

I don't concern myself with accumulation of karmic debt, because I
know
that in the long run, nothing in the physical is real, and accepting
whatever suffering is to be, is our atonement, through divine justice.
If a person reaches the point where they do finally understand their
life purpose is to embrace each other, then certainly they cannot
expect
to find any worth in rehashing past mistakes, since it is obviously
karma which takes care of that.

But, do we not play a role in that karma? Are we not the agents of
karma as well? That makes the question a bit more complex, then...is
forgiveness to love unconditionally, and to perservere through any and
all physical, psychological and mental conflict? And atonement, is
this
then the effect of forgiveness?

DTB	I would say we have to act with discrimination and the best advice
we can secure. Sometimes we desire to do good, but don't know the
best method.


I think there is a lot of emphasis put on pain and suffering as karmic
debt payoff. To the student-- lets say s/he has a grasp on
understanding
how this life is illusionary and a dream-- is pain and suffering going
to still serve as a lesson if the student is not phased by some
specific
manifested adversity that is supplied him/her by karma? By choice the
student can say, "oh, man, this is so terrible!" or "C'est la Vie" and
"thy will be done". There lies the difference between negative karma
being perpetuated and positive karma being generated.

So, don't we affect in our realizations, the "future" karma?

DTB	Certainly we are always affecting the future. However if we have
debts unpaid due to others we may have deliberately or inadvertently
harmed or delayed in their progress Karma has taken note and will in
its educative manner try to make us see our error or inattention. --
by letting us share the results of that choice we made -- then. Of
course we may not "like" those results.

Hopefully
our forgiveness counts for more and more because we have taken
responsibility for our actions, past and present. And, we hope it rubs
off on everyone around us, this ability to let go of the material
unimportant things, and embrace everyone and everything with love.

Im so glad that I am able to be a part of this list. Must have done
something right to get this good karma! Thanks =O)


CUT