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Re: Theos-World Comparing Goswami's views with those of Gerald Schueler

Nov 22, 2002 12:24 PM
by Morten Nymann Olesen


Hi all of you,

Love is NOT negative.
Maya is also known as Universal Mother, Sakthi, Kali, Durga, Aum...

Maya - Prakrithi is God's manifestation.
Everything has come from God.
There is nothing except God.
Nature is God's manifestation.
The cosmos is the embodiment of God.
There is nothing not even an atom in the world without God.
God is the immanent power in everything.

God and Cosmos are related as Cause and Effect. The relationship is
inter-dependent and inseparable.
The basic truth of nature is One in the many; that is the key to its
understanding.
The ONE - in God alone is all flux, all this changing Cosmos, established.
All that you see in the cosmos - the moving and stationary objects - is a
manifestation of the ATMA.
In the spiritual realm, what you hear at every step is ATMA.
What you see is ATMA.
What makes you forget is also ATMA !
The world is designed to teach man to be one with God.
The entire universe originated from sound vibrations.
The one indestructible sound OM is Brahman, the Universal Absolute.
Everything is Maya, but the TRUTH is shown there.

Philosophers of all lands and all times have sought to discover the truth
about God, the objective world and man, as well as their mutual
relationship. Maya is the will that causes all three. It is a clear,
flawless mirror. When the Sattwic nature is reflected in that mirror, God
results; when the Rajasic nature is reflected, the Jiva or individualised
self results. It is ever-anxious to grow, to garb, to survive and to secure.
When thamasic nature is reflected, matter (the objective world) is the
result. All three are ParaAtman, but they derive their Reality as its
reflections. When undergoing reflection they attain different forms and
combinations of characteristics. the One becomes many; every one of the many
is Real only because of the One in it. MAYA too is a component of the One;
by the emphasis on that component, the One transformed Itself into many.
But the One is ever One.

Maya brings trouble, and at the same time protects the disciple of God.
The clouds seem to be stuck to the sky; so too MAYA (the tendency to
conclude that what the senses tell us is true or to project our preferences
and prejudices on to the world around us) gives us an untrue picture of
BRAHMAN.
It makes us believe, that the world is Real. Its impact warps our reasoning
process, our sensory impressions and our view on God, on creation, and on
man. It spreads before us a diversity which tantalises and deceives.

Maya flourishes on ignorance and ends with knowledge.
The ignorance which prevents and postpones the inquiry into the nature of
the Atma makes Maya flourish. So Vidya - AtmaVidya spells the doom of Maya.

Another interesting point is this: It may be argued since Maya produces
Vidya, Maya is right and proper and deserving respect; but the Vidya that
araises oout of it is also not permanent. As soon as Avidya is destroyed
through Vidya, the Vidya too ends ! The tree and the fire, both are
destroyed when the fire ends !

Love is our nature.
Love is all.
Everyone must become the embodiment of Love.
Love alone makes lige meaningful.
Live in Love.
When you have LOVE, you practise non-voilence.
The ATMA can be known only through LOVE; all claims to the contrary are
spouriuos and missing the mark.
Shower it, and you will be showered in return !
Stop sharing Love totally, and there will be no more to share.
Develop love by sharing it.
Love is the basis for Self-discovery.
The end of knoeledge is Love.
Love is constant. Only onchanging love that shines brightly in the heart is
true love.
We should have faith in Love which is another form of God.

There is only one royal road for the spiritual journey ... LOVE.
Love lead you quickly to the Goal.
Love is nothing else but Love. --- Ignorance bars your view.
Love is the fundamental spiritual discipline.
Love wins against all evils.
Love is patient when needed.
Love your enemies. Treat even the ones you hate as your friends.
Love is NOT negative.


from
M. Sufilight....in the Atmic trance...








----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" <comments@blavatskyarchives.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Theos-World Comparing Goswami's views with those of Gerald Schueler


> Comparing Goswami's views with those of Gerald Schueler
>
> In "Monads and Emptiness" by Gerald Schueler,
> [ http://www.schuelers.com/Theosophy/docs/monads_and_emptiness.htm ]
> he mentions the "divine monad". In his writings on Theos-L, Schueler
> has gone into much greater detail concerning his views of
> this "monad.' Compare his view with what Goswami writes below:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> THE VEDAS AND UPANISHADS ETC. DESCRIBE THREE KINDS OF GOD
> REALIZATION, THAT OF THE IMPERSONAL BRAHMAN IS THE FIRST AND LEAST
> INCLUSIVE, NOT THE MOST. IT IS FOUND IN MANY RELIGIONS AND ASSOCIATED
> WITH THE UNITIVE EXPERIANCE OF 'NATURE MYSTICISM'. EXPERIENCE OF THE
> BRAHMAN OR PARABRAHMN, AS IT IS SOMETIMES CALLED IN THEOSOPHY, IS
> CONSIDERED IN VAISHNAVA ADVAITA VEDANTA AS THE FIRST RUNG ON THE
> LADDER OF GOD-AND-SELF REALIZATION. THEN THE SECOND RUNG IS THE
> REALIZATION OF PARAMATMAN (THE IMMANENT, PERSONAL HOLY SPIRIT AND
> IT'S BELOVED JIVATMA), WHICH INCLUDES BRAHMAN VISION, AND FINALLY THE
> SUMMIT AND MOST INCLUSIVE, WHICH IS BHAGAVAN REALIZATION, IN WHICH
> THE BRAHMAN, PARAMATMAN AND BHAGAVAN, THE ORIGINAL SUPREME
> PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD ARE ALL EXPERIANCED / REALIZED OR
> DIRECTLY 'SEEN'. . . .
>
> THE FINAL REFERENCE TO THE ONE, HE, THE OBSERVER IN THE HIGHEST
> HEAVEN POSSIBLY KNOWING "NOT", IS A DIRECT REFERENCE TO THE DOCTRINE
> OF YOGA MAYA, IN WHICH GOD 'COVERS' (HIDES OR DENIES) A PORTION OF
> HIS OWN CONCIOUSNESS 'OVER' WITH YOGA MAYA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PREMA,
> DIVINE LOVE. THE REALM OF BHAKTI LILA EXISTS WITHIN THE MAYA OR 'NOT-
> ME' PLEASURE POTENTIA OF GODHEAD, IN THE ORIGINAL GIVER'S (ADI
> PURUSHA'S) FEMININE RECIEVING SHAKTI OR SHEKINAH. ONE OF THE ADI
> SHAKTI'S POTENCIES IS MAYA, ILLUSION, BUT THERE ARE TWO FORMS OF
> MAYA. THE ATHEISTS ONLY KNOW ABOUT MAHA-MAYA OR THE KIND OF ILLUSION
> DEALT WITH BY THE ADVAITIS AND BUDDHISTS. HOWEVER THAT MAYA IS ONLY
> CO-EXTENSIVE WITH THE SAHA WORLD OF BIRTH, DEATH, DISEASE, AND OLD
> AGE, WHILE THE ORIGINAL TRANSCENDENTAL MAYA, YOGA MAYA, IS ALSO
> ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMMATERIAL HEAVEN-OF-HEAVENS, VAIKUNTHAS (PURE
> LAND) OR PARADISE. WHEN AND WHERE YOGA MAYA IN UNION WITH ADI PURUSHA
> IS REALIZED WITHIN A MATERIAL WORLD, THE 'KINGDOM OF HEAVEN' IS MADE
> MANIFEST WITHIN IT ! THERE 'GOD-WHO-IS-LOVE' REIGNS SUPREME, AND ALL
> THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED!
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Daniel
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