Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00288)

You are so lost in details. Ah gee, but everything is so messed up on this
earth, maybe your message will make it better. Please pick your papers up
off the ground. It's too bad all this racist stuff happened and is probably
still happening in India, but I do not believe your message is going to make
things better, do you? Well, obviously, you do, and that is the RUB? Do you
GET it?

Only a few people are reading your message (and mine). It is probably only a
handful, as a lot of people probably do not get this list by email and only
read it from the list page, or if they do get email, it is in digest format
and they barely skim it if they even read it at all. You probably have a
great big fantasy about what you are doing, whatever it is. Wry

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From: "Bhakti Ananda Goswami <bhakti.eohn@v...>" <bhakti.eohn@v...>
Date: Sat Dec 7, 2002 6:21 pm
Subject: A VAISHNAVA RESPONDS TO POST 29323




From: "brianmuehlbach <brianmuehlbach@y...>" <brianmuehlbach@y...>
Date: Sat Dec 7, 2002 1:18 am
Subject: The Census co-created Hinduism Today ?

A VAISHNAVA RESPONDS TO POST 29323

Bhakti Ananda Goswami's COMMENTS AT >>>>


With the advent of missionary activity in the 19th century, the claim
that
`Christians were already Hindu' managed to diminish the threat of
conversion to Christianity.

Diminution of the Threat from Buddhism - Ambedkar led a mass Black
Untouchable movement of conversion Buddhism in order to escape the
astika Brahmanist (Vedic, Vaishnava) caste system. The claim that
Buddhists were in any case Hindu served to diminish any threat from
Buddhism.

>>>This reactionary movement to the oppression of the dark-
skinned 'dalits' by the 'aryan'
birth-caste adwaiti 'Vedic' and often Ram-associated Vaishnava
Brahmins in South India
continues to gather steam at the present. Often this reactionary
movement is fueled by
blatant disinformation campaigns and lies against Vaishnavism such as
the "protocols of Zion"-like
disinformation campaign promoting the now tragically pervasive idea
that the vanaras forest-dwellers
in the Ramayana were actually dark-skinned Dravidians enslaved as sub-
human 'monkeys' by the white
Aryan race hero RAMA. Along with this completely baseless idea is
the allied one that the demons
or asuras of the Ramayana were also dark skinned Dravidians. This
racist reading of the Ramayana is
a purely modern phenomenon, which WAS Promoted by the British and
their Euro-aryanist allies
to drive a wedge between the lighter-skinned caste brahmins and
Theravadin Buddhists of India
and Sri Lanka and the darker skinned, often Shaivite Tamils of South
India and Sri Lanka.
The Europeans projected their 'white' aryanist racism onto the
ancient Sanskrit Vedic and Vaishnava
scriptures, inventing the 'aryan invasion' myth to support their
global campaign for white-racist
imperial domination of the world. Thus they re-imagined the high
civilizations of India and Egypt as
the product of THEIR OWN REMOTE ANCESTORS, THE 'WHITE ARYAN'
INVADERS. To promote
this idea, they reinterpreted and in some cases redacted Sanskrit
Shastras / scriptures. They re-interpreted
the vedic-Vaishnava Purusha Sukta Hymn as promoting birth-caste-ism
by insisting that the varnas of the
mystical sacramental social body of the cosmic Purusha referred to
racial colors, and not to a symbolism
connected to the gunas and occupational 'modes' of being and work.
They also re-interpreted, redacted and
aggressively promoted, with their printing presses and educational
systems, other ancient Sanskrit 'aryan' Vedic
Literatures from the perspective of their own 'white' racism. In
doing-so, they laid the ground-work for
the Aryan versus Dravidian defined wars of Sri Lanka and South and
other innumerable atrocities ever since.
The Theosophical thought-leaders were involved in this aryanist myth-
making . Olcott spent a great deal of effort
in Sri Lanka promoting aryanism among the Sinhalese Theravadin
Buddhists. With an alliance with the Buddhists,
Olcott used his influence to diffuse Aryanism globally via a movement
for Theravadin Buddhist unity. Thus racist
aryanism was spread exoterically by the colonialist governments of
Europe and Russia, esoterically by the
occult and secret societies of Theosophy-related groups (including
forms of Indian, Persian and Arab racist Sufism),
and exoterically by the racist elite (often mayavadi and smarta)
brahmins of India and the Elite priests and monastics of Theravadin
Buddhism, where ever it was connected to the Sri Lankan led movement
for Buddhist Unity. In the next century
this Buddhist aryanism would significantly unite some Theravadin Zen
Japanese, Sri Lankan Theravadin and Nepalese-Tibetan Theravadin
Buddhists in their aryanist support of the Third Reich.

>>>>I would like to suggest to anyone who thinks that the claimed
racist reading of the Ramayana is
authentic, that they should look at the illustrations of the Ramayana
commissioned by Akbar in 1582.
These full-color miniatures can be viewed from the Freer Gallery of
Art at the Smithsonian Institution,
Washington , D. C., U.S. A.. They are also available in publications
such as the Palace Publishing Edition
of "The Illustrated Ramayana". In these illustrations Rama, the
Epic's Hero, an Incarnation of Vishnu, is
depicted as black, gray, blue or greenish, but NEVER as a 'white'
human racial 'aryan'. Furthermore,
Hanumat (Hanuman) and the other VANARA FOREST DWELLERS are real
monkeys with tails, and the
ASURA demons are giant multi-colored shape-shifting monsters. Ravana
their demon leader (a 'white' skinned
brahmin by the way) has ten heads and twenty arms. The other demons
and demonesses are also clearly
giant shape-shifting non human monsters with bizarre forms and
colors. So the reading that the Ramayana
is a story about a white 'aryan' race-hero's subjugation of the dark-
skinned natives of South India and
Sri Lanka is ridiculous.


The English census-compilers created Hinduism in the 1830s as a
blanket term for several communities, but arbitrarily excluded
Buddhism
(since it was found in East Asia) and Jainism. It is thus not
surprising
that many `native' scholars have classed Jainism and Buddhism as
`Hindu'. In favor of Jainism and Buddhism being merely `Hindu'
religions, the following points have been put forward:

>>>>Jainism and Mahayana Buddhism share a common language of belief
with Vaishnavism, thus when
the World Hindu Organization formed under the Patronage of the late
lamented King of Nepal,
H. M. King Birendra, the entire "family of Hindu ' Indic Sanskrity"
INCLUDING JAINIS AND MAHAYANA
BUDDHISM was included in its membership. I sat on the Executive
Committee of this Organization in Kathmandu,
and saw Jain and Buddhist leaders enthusiastically participating
there. Sanskrit, the 'aryan' (but NOT RACIST) language of the Vedas
unites all the later Vedic-Related (thus Indus or 'Hindu') traditions
INCLUDING THE JAIN, MAHAYANA
BUDDHIST, SHAIVITE, SHAKTA, VAISHNAVA, ADVAITI etc. traditions.

Buddha and the Jain Tirthankaras are classed as incarnations of
Vishnu
in Aryan Vaishnavite literature.

>>>>>>>This is a fact. Black Krishnas and white Balas and the
Krishna of the Gita are also mentioned in Jain lore. The Mahayana
Buddhist Forms of Amitabha and Lokeshvara are Forms of Krishna-
Vishnu, and the M. Buddhist Names of Amitabha-Lokesvara are Names of
Krishna-Vishnu.

The Tamil epic poem Manimekalai mentions the 6 systems of philosophy
current in India in the early centuries AD as the Lokayata, Bauddha,
Sankhya, Nyaya, Vaiseshika and Mimamsa, and thus a Brahmanist
author claims that " the Bauddha and Lokayata far from being non-
Hindu, formed 2 of the 6 Hindu systems" [ Man.Mek. canto xxvii ][
1800,
p.225 ]. The auther then concludes that the Europeans have made a
mistake in classifying Buddhists and Jains as separate religions, and
that
these persons are Hindus !

>>>>>>It all depends on how 'Hindu' is being defined. The Nepalese-
based World Hindu Organization (this is NOT the Vishva Hindu
Parishad of India) defined 'Hindu' as inclusive of all those Indic
Traditions belonging to the family of Vedic-related Sanskrity.

To further strengthen his point, he claims
that the mistake was due to the Europeans following Madhvacharya's
`Sarva-darsana-sangraha' of the 14th century, which mentions 6
systems : 1. purva Mimamsa, 2. Uttara Mimamsa or Vedanta, 3.
Sankhya, 4. Yoga, 5. Nyaya, 6. Vaiseshika. Since this list did not
include
Jains, Buddhists and Atheist Carvaks, these were not included by the
Europeans as Hindus [ 1800,p.225 ].

>>>>>>>Madhvacarya was describing the traditional orthodox systems of
Vedic Thought. Furthermore the modern classification
of "Hindu" would not have been known to Sri Madhvacharya.

In late 1998, the Hindu (ie. astika Brahminist, or Orthodox
Vaishnavite)
Fundamentalist party, the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party), then the
ruling
party of the Government of India, issued several statements that the
Buddhists were Hindus. Other statements also claimed that the Muslims
were mostly converted from `Hindus' (a fact long controverted by the
English census, which showed that even in Bengal half of the Muslims
were of `Foreign' origin). This coincided with widespread violence
against Christians, Muslims and Buddhists, with attempts to
`reconvert'
the `lost' Hindus.

>>>>>>>This author's perception of the BJP is rather strange. Has he
ever heard of SHAIVISM ? Doesn't he know about the long oppression
of hundreds of millions of Vaishnavas by the non-Vaishnava caste
brahmanas ? Why is it traditionally joked all over India that the
Brahmin devotees of Shiva are rich and powerful while the devotees of
Vishnu are poor and powerless ? Why did Gandhiji call the
Untouchables the HARI-JANAS or CHILDREN OF HARI (KRISHNA), and why
did hundreds of millions of poor Vaishnavas follow the Pranami and
RAMA VAISHNAVA Gandhi in his stand against BOTH THE BRITISH and all
forms of undemocratic, racist and class oppression?


Thus, the noble faith of Buddhism has been insulted and denigrated by
being included in the Hindu monolith of Vedic apartheid, sati and
dowry-
burning -


>>>>>Using these anti-Hindu buzz-words of the Dalit Movement, this
author clearly suffers from extreme, blinding anti-Vaishnava
prejudice, of the kind exhibited by the long-oppressed South India
Dalits who have bought-into the anti-Ramayan "we are not your
monkeys' movement. While I am sympathetic to his cause to free the
Dalits and others oppressed by racism and caste-ism, it saddens me
that he is unable to realize that his thinking has been corrupted by
Euro-aryanism, so that he cannot understand who the real enemy of
Indian brotherhood and solidarity is.

" Advani delivered himself of some newfangled wisdom on November 6
at Sarnath, while addressing an "international" seminar on "World
Unity
in the Buddha's Trinity" as part of the Buddha Mahotsav organised by
Union Tourism Minister Madan Lal Khurana, and much publicised in the
media in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. The Buddha, he declared, "did not
announce any new religion. He was only restating with a new emphasis
the ancient ideals of the Indo-Aryan civilisation." According to The
Telegraph (November 7), "Advani said (the) Buddha derived his
teachings from the Bhagvad Gita and was an avatar of Vishnu."
-- [ Bidwai ]

The bigoted Vaishnavas have also made many attempts to subvert the
separate religion of Jainism to the `Hindu' yoke. Naturally, the
Jains
have valiantly resisted these sinister attempts to destroy their
religion
and heritage, as is evident from the following recent press release :

" Jains demand minority status
Sunday, February 14, 1999 The Indian Express
PUNE: The national conference of Jains Saturday passed a resolution
to
recommend to central government to include Jains in the list of
minority
communities . The conference, 'Jain Action 99', organised by 'Jain
Sahyog' also passed a resolution that out of the expenses which the
Jain
community spends on religious functions, some part should be kept
aside to promote education, social and cultural activities of the
Jain
community in the local areas, reports PTI.

Another resolution urged for creating unity among Jain groups of
different castes and sects and to bring all the national as well as
local
level organisations together to form a pressure group at the national
level. The conference also mooted health projects by providing
homeopathic medical service to the community. Among other states,
delegates from Gujarat, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh,
Delhi and Maharashtra were participating in the two-day conference.
Dalchand Jain, treasurer of All India Congress Committee, in his
inaugural speech called for preserving ancient Jain temples in a
better
way. He also called for setting up of hostels for Jain students.
Milind
Phade, chairman of Jain Sahyog, outlined the purpose of the
conference.
Assistant editor of 'Maharashtra Times' Ashok Jain released a special
issue of 'Divya Shakti', a booklet on Jain community. "
-- [ Min_J ]

>>>>>>This is an extremely important point. When I was meeting with
religious and governmental leaders in Sri Lanka, India and Nepal in
1982, I was repeatedly told by all the Vaishnava, Shaivite, Jain,
Sikh and other leaders about the problems caused to ALL religious
communities by the secular and communist-influenced government's
insistence on lumping all the groups politically into the single
category of "Hindu" as opposed to "Muslim'. Funds to support
communities, for education, social services, infrastructure, to
restore temples, preserve heritage and archeological sites...funds
for everything were tied-to obliterating "sectarian differences" and
accepting the government's one-category-fits-all "Hindu" political
label. The effect was that if a group insisted on preserving its
unique identity and heritage by not identifying itself on the census
as part of the generic 'Hindu' category, it would become a
governmental non-entity, and be deprived of all future tax-dollar
paid services. Thus the secular government was using the tax dollar
developmental monies purse-strings for anti-"communal' social
engineering.
The above example of the Jains' efforts to fight this is a good one,
but it gives the erroneous impression that the Vaishnavas and
other "sectarian' and 'communal' groups are not ALSO subjected to the
same anti-religious and ultimately genocidal forces to conform-or die-
of-neglect.

8.2 Judeo-Christian Hindus
Indeed, so vague is the definition of `Hinduism' that one can include
Jews and Christians in it ! This has already been done by our bigoted
Brahminists and Vaishnavas.
Jews
Who has put forth the claims that Jews are Hindus ? A Pandit from
Kashi
Mandir ? Or an Acharya from Poona Vedic Institute ? No ! A European
Aryan friend of the Brahmin Aryans has put forward these claims.
Madame Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, which
originated the Nazi version of the Aryan race theory, wrote:

" Megasthenes says that the Jews were an Indian sect called Kalani,
and
their theology resembled that of the Indians. Other authors also
suspect
that the colonized Jews or the Judeans were the Yadus from
Afghanistan -- the old India. "
-- [ Isis.I, p.567 ]
Madame Blavatsky notes that the old French scholar Jacolliot, who
lived
in the 19th century, had already realized that India was the cradle
of
humanity. The august Jacolliot derived the Books of Moses from India:

" He [ Jacolliot ] shows the sources whence proceeded the revelations
of
all the ancient creeds, including the inspired Books of Moses, and
points
to India directly as the cradle of humanity, the parent of all other
nations."
-- [ Isis.I, p.584 ]
What these citations show is that the main culprits in the spread of
the
bogus Hindu-Aryan race theories were European Aryans, who were
bolstering their race pride.

>>>>>>One of the tragic things about the disinformation of the
European Aryanists is that it has polluted the entire field of
Indological studies. Aryanism really pervaded the western
humanities. As a result, real unbiased inquiry into the ancient
relationships between the Eastern, Levantine, Afro-Egyptian and
European cultures has been severely inhibited. Any evidence for real
ancient interactions between the African and Semitic and Indic
civilizations has been contaminated by the nonsense racial aryanist
speculations of the Euro-Aryanists. At present, one good thing to
come out of the Dravidian pride movement, is a new look at the
possible connections between Agamic Shaivism and other S. Indian
traditions, and those of very ancient Sumer, Akkad, the traditions of
the Biblical Western Semites in general, and traditions of Africa.

>>>>>All the above and below aryanist 'historical' nonsense is
typical of the bizarre mixture of truth, fantasy and out-rite racist
lies being promulgated by various fanatical aryanist 'Hindu' groups
today. Over the years I have written letters to the authors of some
of the outrageous claims made in this post, refuting them and
demanding the lies be retracted. This has not made me very popular
with the Hindu aryanist fanatics whether Advaiti, Vaishnava or
Shaivite. Fanatical Hindu Aryanism does unite the elite powerful
brahmins of India as a pro-Brahmin, anti-everyone else POLITICAL, not
religious entity.

>>>>>>The authors and promulgators of some of the below ideas are
also HEAVILY INFLUENCED by the Western Occult traditions, and have
wholly adopted some of their racist Aryanist, anti-Semitic and anti-
Catholic lies and doctrines from these sources. In reviewing a
recent book by ISKCON's popular historical-fiction-as-fact writer
Stephen Knapp (2000 World Relief Network) it is noteworthy that not
only is his work pervaded by Rosicrucian, Masonic and Theosophical
ideas, but he actually sites western esotericists like Spencer Lewis,
and New Age occult 'wisdom' pseudo-historians like Kersten as
quotable authorities alongside bona fide scholars, as if there is no
difference ! In the above and below statements, some of which come
from Knapp's book and the very popular bizarre writings of P.N. Oak,
Western esoteric sources have been used. Above Louis Jaccoliot, and
his avid Theosophical Society promoter H.P. Blavatsky are both
mentioned. Theosophy-related and New Age influenced Eastern and
Western Vaishnava sites on the internet often refer to the
imaginative esoteric and aryanist teachings of persons like
Blavatsky, Jaccoliot, Nicholas Notovitch, Eliaphas Levi, Spencer
Lewis, Manly P. Hall, Kersten, Gruber and the spurious 'Tomb of
Jesus' esoteric Sufism related Amahdiyya Muslims. P.N. Oak's
rabidly fanatic writings are very popular in some Hindu and Vaishnava
circles. None of Oak's or Knapp's fans seem to have any ability to
discriminate between authentic historical scholarship and the
imaginative fictions of the esoteric channeled 'masters; and their
earthly spokespersons.

>>>>How very sad, and how sad that the author of this letter has
bought-into all of this aryanist nonsense and allowed it to define
his relationship to 'Hinduism'.

>>>>>Praying for an end to the Era of Lies and Aryanism and the Dawn
of a new Era of Truth and Human Brotherhood and Solidarity,

>>>>your aspiring servant,

>>>>>Bhakti Ananda Goswami


Christians
Thus the Jews are Hindus ! What about Christians ? The `neo-Hindu'
sect of ISCKON amply brings out the Aryan feeling that the Christians
are Hindu:

" Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, and Christos is the
Greek
version of the word Krsna... `Christ is simply another way of saying
`Krsta', and `Krsta' is another way of pronouncing Krishna. "
-- [ Christ ]

All civilization in the world is claimed to be `Hindu' by the bigoted
Brahmins !
" Almost every single monument in the world is claimed to be a Hindu
mandir. `Vishwa Hindu,' the VHP journal, claims that the Taj Mahal is
Tejo Mahalaya - a Shiva temple. Jerusalem is Yedushayam , or the
shrine of the Lord of Yadus -- Krishna. St. Paul's Cathedral in
London is
originally "Gopal Krishna Mandir" . The Kaaba in Mecca was a gigantic
Vishnu temple, Paris was Panneshwaram , etc., and everybody in the
world is supposed to accept this unquestioningly because it is the
VHP's
faith! "
-- [ Name ]
8.3 Muslims are Hindu
Indeed, the Muslims have on several occasions been declared to be
Hindus and the bulk of Indian Muslims have been fallaciously claimed
to
be `converted Hindus'. The shrine of the Kaaba at Mecca, revered by
the Muslims, was actually a shrine of Saturn, god of the Nabataeans.
This is generally accepted even by Muslims, and the contribution of
Nabataeanism to Islam is universally recognised. Yet the Aryan
Vaishnavites claim that this Saturn was actually Shiva, and that the
Muslims are thus Hindus ! None other than the proto-Nazi Madame
Blavatsky set forth this claim:
" Now we have to remember that Siva and the Palestinian Baal or
Moluch, and Saturn are identical; that Abraham is held unitl the
present
day by the Mahometan Arabs as Sasturn in the Kaaba, that Abraham
and Israel are names of Saturn, and that the Sanchoniathon tells us
that
Saturn offered his only-begotten son as a sacrifice to his father
Ouranos, and even cirumcised himself and forced all his household and
allies to do th esame, to trace unerringly the biblical myth to its
source,
But this source is neither Phenician, nor Chaldean; it is purely
Indian,
and the original may be found in the Maha-Bharata."
-- [ Isis.I.578 ]
A paper presented at the World Hindu Conference at Columbo in April
1982 claimed that "The Hajrul Aswad (Kaaba, the Black Stone) is only
a
form of Shivalinga." [ Name ]

So the wars between the Prophet of Islam Mohammed and the Arab
pagans were between Hindus and Muslims ! A suitable excuse for the
Hindutva fanatics to extend their mythical Hindu-Muslim conflict
further
back into history ! -

" Before the rise of Islam, there lived in Arabia many Hindus, mostly
Brahmans, who settled there observing Hindu religious customs
including the worship of Shiva as Makkesha [ Mahesha ] from which the
name of Mecca is said to be derived."
-- [ Vision.183 ]
No doubt, the recently acquired Brahmin nuclear bombs may find a
pious
target in the quest for building a Ram-mandir at Mecca !
One can find this and much more on the `proof' that all races and
religions in the world are derived from `Hinduism' in the article [
Against ] .

8.4 Hindu Americans
Chamanlal, in his book, `Hindu America', has shown that the Native
American Indians were Hindus ! Not Columbus, but the ancient Hindus
were the discoverers of America ! -
" The belief of these Americans in the 4 Hindu Yugas (epochs), their
gurukal scheme of education, Panchayat system, worship of Indra,
Ganesha and other Hindu gods, practice of Hindu religious dances, and
child-birth, marriage and death ceremonies, including Sati, prove
beyond doubt that the Hindus were the first to discover America."
-- [ Chamanlal cited in Vision.182 ]
Madame Blavatsky has also `proven', using her own contradictory
Brahminist logic, that the pre-Columbian American Indian population
of
the Americas were Hindus -
" Now it is easy to see that the excavators of Ellora, the builders
of the
old Pagodas, the architects of Copan and of the ruins of Central
America, those of Nagkon-Wat, and those of the Egyptian remains were,
if not of the same race, at least of the same religion -- the one
taught in
the oldest Mysteries. Besides, the figures on the walls of Angkor are
purely archaic, and have nothing to do with the images and idols of
Buddha, who may be of a far later origin."
-- [ Isis.I, p.567 ]
Madame Blavatsky derived the name of America, not from the name of
Amerigo Vespucci, as claimed by the Spanish missionaries, but from
Meru, the Holy Mountain of Hindus. [ `On the True Origin of the Name
America', Isis.I.531 ] In this manner she `bolstered' her theory.
Not only the eccentric Blavatsky (later found to be a fraud
`medium'),
but even serious researchers like Humboldt have made such absurd
claims:

" Humboldt says that Hindu customs and manners were prevalent in
America when the Europeans first founded colonies there. An icon
discovered in Mexico shows that the Hindu god Ganesha was
worshipped there ... Temples in Mexico are modelled on those of South
India."
-- [ Vision, p.181 ]
So no doubt, the conflict between Christian conquistadors and Native
Americans was one between Hindus and Chrisitians, a prequel of the
later conflicts between Hindus and Christians in India !
8.5 The Whole World is Hindu !
Elaborating on their hypothetical theories, the Brahminists have
claimed
that not only is the whole world Hindu, but that all races in their
racial
origins are Hindus, which for Brahminists means Aryans. Noted
Bharatiya Vidyalaya scholar Shri Talageri has described the migration
of
Aryans from U.P. to different parts of the India:
" [ T ]he Indo-Europeans of south eastern Uttar Pradesh migrated to
the
west and setled down in the northwestern areas of Punjab, Kashmir and
the further north west, where they differentiated into 3 groupd: the
Purus (in the Punjab), the Anus (in Kashmir) and the Druhyus (in
northwestern Afghanistan). Meanwhile, there remained various Indo-
Europeans still in the interior of India, the Yadus in northern
Maharasthra, Gujarat and Western UP, Ikshvakus in northeastern UP
(and perhaps also in Dakshina Kosala in eastern MP) and the Pramsus
in
Bihar, to name only those of them clearly mentioned in the Puranas"
-- [ Tala.Ch.23 ]
He then goes on to describe how the Aryans spread throughout the
world:
"Meanwhile, major sections of Anus spread out all over Western Asia
and developed into various Iranian cultures. The Druhyus spread out
into
Europe in two instalments: the speakers of the proto-Germanic dialect
first migrated northwards and then westwards, and then later the
speakers of the proto-Hellenic and proto-Italic Celtic dialects moved
into
Europe by a different, more southern, route."
-- [ Tala.Ch.23 ]
But these ideas are not original, Talageri xeroxed them from Madame
Blavatsky, who had propounded these ideas set forth in the Puranas,
in
addition to her concept of the Aryan root race that was later adopted
by
the Nazis :
" There is a passage in a well-known Hindu work which may well be
recalled in this connection. " Under the reign of Viswamitra, first
king of
the Dynasty of Soma-Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted
five
days, Manu-VIna, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the
Brahmans, emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya,
and the countries of Bactria, till he came to the shores of Masra "
(History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina
and
Menes, the first Egyptian King, are identical.
Arya is Eran (Persia); Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of
Cairo, which to this day is called, Masr, musr, and Misro. Phoenician
hisory names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes. "
-- [ Isis.I.627 ]
And how did these Hindus reach America from the Holy Land ? Perhaps
by some kind of prehistoric aircraft ? Oh yes, that has also been
discovered ! Our Brahmins claim that aircraft were used during the
Mahabharat War and by Rama ! So it is obviously by means of these
machines that they reached America. But perhaps this is also obivous
from the native Americans being called `Indian'. Of course Columbus,
with his infinite kownledge, could not have made the mistake of
calling
them Indian without any reason ! Praise be to the Hindus, who
colonied
the world !
Of course, the Dravidians are not Negroes, but are merely degraded
Aryans ! -

" The difference between the so-called Aryans of the north and the
Dravidians of the south or other communities of Indian subcontinent
is
not a racial type. Biologically all are the same Caucasian type, only
when
closer to the equator the skin gets darker, and under the influence
of
constant heat the bodily frame tends to get a little smaller . And
these
differences can not be the basis of two altogether different races.
Similar differences one can observe even more distinctly among the
people of pure Caucasian white race of Europe. Caucasian can be of
any
color ranging from pure white to almost pure black, with every shade
of
brown in between. "
-- [ Agra ]

And Vivekananda, has written that the Sudras and all races of manking
are degraded from the Brahmins:

"And the theory that the Shudra caste were all non-Aryans and they
were a multitude, is equally illogical and irrational. It could not
have
been possible in those days that a few Aryans settled and lived there
with a hundred thousand slaves at their command. The slaves would
have eaten them up, made chutney of them in five minutes. The only
explanation is to be found in the Mahabharat, which says that in the
beginning of the Satya Yoga there was only one caste, the Brahmins,
and then by differences of occupations they went on dividing
themselves
into different castes, and that is the only true and rational
explanation
that has been given. And in the coming Satya Yuga all other castes
will
have to go back to the same condition."
-- [ Viv.III.293 ]






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