Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00188)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Etzion Becker <etvionbb@n...> 
wrote:
> I think you need urgently a good coffee break. I read a few Steiner 
books,
> and I don't know what are you talking about. He was persecuted by 
the Nazis,
> who burnt down the first Goeteanum. I was also deeply involved with 
some of
> the action of the group in Israel, their work with disabled and 
retarded
> children alone would place Steiner in the first rank of helpers of 
humanity
> in the last century. Our governmnet learnt quite a lot of how to 
treat these
> sad souls like humans, instead of dumping them like stray dogs, as 
was the
> norm. Take off your shoes before you talk about Steiner. There is a 
nice
> icecream booth out of your home, go and have a nice one. Love, 
Etzion

I don't tell you HOW to read Steiner and I dare say that you can tell 
me how to read him. Just as Jews and many people find Bailey totally 
anti-semitic and racist you could tell them that they are talking 
about people who are serving the race until you are blue in the face 
and they will be totally unmoved. The same with Steiner. He is 
subject to the same interpretation. I was open minded about Steiner 
when I first picked up his books, but then another reality of his 
works took over. It was NOT something I was looking for. I was 
totally shocked at the undertones and the thinking I found in those 
books. They scared the heck out of me. Perceptions are valid. If you 
perceive that I am wrong, fine, you are entitled, but so am I 
entitled to believe what I want about Steiner. 

I see he and Hitler as sympatico. I look beyond his words, apparently 
as you have done with me. You are reading what you will into what I 
have said. I have a whole website and thousands of unpublished papers 
about the links between people that I am researching. I am objective 
about Hitler, that is why my views are unpopular. You are misreading 
me, that's all I can say. But you go right ahead.

Netemara

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "netemara888" <netemara888@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:11 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Steiner and Hitler were contemporaries
> 
> 
> > I spent time carefully reading a couple of Steiner's works and if
> > THIS is not the inspiration for Hitler's words and deeds I don't 
know
> > what is. The thought that came to me when I read Steiner and 
compared
> > the dates of their lives is that Hitler could have even been
> > occupying both bodies at one time! That's how similar their auras 
and
> > spirits were. But if you do compare the dates when Steiner died
> > forget the year, then immediately after that Hitler's power became
> > explosive. I mean everything he touched after that came to 
fruition
> > until his demise at the hands of the Allies.
> >
> > That is food for thought. Steiner's work is scary to me. His 
people
> > also believe in and channel a spirit named Michael. I am not sure 
how
> > that fits in but read him. He changed the name of his group from
> > Theosophy and changed its ideals as well. I can't read his works 
too
> > much because I am don't like the feeling of evil I get by 
something
> > coming out of his works. This is NOT the feeling I have ever 
gotten
> > from reading Blavatsky or from reading Bailey.
> >
> > Netemara
> >
> >
> >
> >
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