Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00395)

mail@katinkahesselink.net writes:

Hi Leon,

Some comments below. 

> Leon:

> We can only speak of the Cosmos (Brahma), which can be 

> unconditioned (when asleep) and conditioned (when awake). 
> The Absolute reality, rootless root, (Parabrahm) or Krishna, 

> is neither conditioned nor unconditioned, but always is 

> Absolute and ineffable. Yet, while they are all part of the one 

> reality, they are different in their state or circumstance of existence. 

> Remember, The Absolute is the Father of innumerable universes, 

> and no matter how many of them are either in conditioned or 

> unconditioned states of existence, Parabrahm or Ein Soph is forever 
> unchanged. Admittedly, that cannot be "sensed" since it is beyond all 

> finite conception. However, the unconditioned Cosmos (Brahma) can 

> only be "sensed" by the "open eye of the Dagma" when it manifests 

> or becomes conditioned. (Ref: Stanzas I-II)


> So, if you are interested in visualizing these relationships, I 

> suggest you study the diagrams at:

> http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/invlutionflddiagnotate.gif

> http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/Invlutionfldmirror2.gif

[Katinka] 
I like these two pictures. The first seems to me more consistent with 

the fractal idea. To make the latter consistent every circle would 

need to be filled with more circles - which would take all the beauty 

out of it. (the mathematician in me speaking). 

Can you give a link to the page where you explain those diagrams?

[Leon] 
Thank you. The first "notate" diagram only represents the "light" fields that 
we can experience in our phenomenal universe (as spoken about in the 
Stanzas). However, the second diagram goes a bit deeper and explores the 
possibility that there is a dark universe that is the exact reflection of 
this one where the force is spinning in the opposite direction. This came 
out of my scientific background that insists that there must be a fundamental 
"symmetry" in the Absolute that underlies and balances all manifestations of 
conditioned reality. 

Thus, the primal force, besides being attractive and repulsive, is also 
positive and negative, light and dark, etc. Didn't HPB say that everything 
is fundamentally "electrical" in nature, and that there were additional 
fields of different or denser matter that are beyond our ability to 
understand? These dark fields could be the "halls of Amenti" or "nether 
worlds" spoken of in ancient Egyptian and kabbalistic metaphysics... And, 
also, the "dark matter" or "antimatter" that come up in the cosmological 
field equations of modern science. 

Thus, in the "mirror" diagram, I consider that the "dark" force or energy is 
spinning counterclockwise to the direction of spin in this "light" universe. 
(Note the gray and blue arrows that indicate this.) Actually, both the light 
and dark universe would actually be in the same place. So, to really 
visualize this as a cross sectional diagram of spherical fields that are 
coadunate, all we have to do is print out and fold the mirror diagram on its 
central horizontal line and then see the two field cross sections back to 
back and note that they are coadunate, and spinning in opposite directions.

The only web page that even begins to explain the origin of the field 
diagrams is where I show how the first monadic field starts from the central 
zero point and proceeds to emanate the ray centrifugally outwardly, and then 
spirals back centripetally, and out again, in three cycles, to form the first 
triune fields or primal monad. This implies (as HPB said) that the primal 
force underlying gravity is both attractive and repulsive. Therefore, 
"everything that goes around comes around" or what goes out must come back 
in. That, of course is the fundamental basis of karma, as well as cycles and 
periodicity. See:
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html#ancho

r1341429 (Or, you can go to the . . ./chakrafield.html -- and scroll down to 
the 3 cycle diagram.)

This triple cycle keeps endlessly repeating, and as the zero point also spins 
on its vertical axis, the lines of energy spiral inward and outward 
vortically and (so to speak) weave three spherical fields, like bubbles 
within a bubble... With their inside and outside circumferences connected 
through their 3 crossover (zero) points. Topologically this is like a Klien 
bottle or a Mobius strip created from a single endless "ray," "line," or 
"string" of force. This is the fundamental coenergetic form of all monads 
(multidimensional triune fields) on whatever level of involution they appear. 
Incidentally, the wave front of a fundamental photon particle on the 
physical plane has this exact form (like a figure eight inscribed inside a 
circle) -- which, because it is spinning perpendicular to its direction of 
propogation, accounts for the multiple axis polarization of sidereal light.

This formation is entirely in conformance with the most advanced Superstring 
and M-brane theory's fractal and topological mathematics (although I don't 
understand one bit of it :-) -- that, postulates a ten (or more) dimensional 
universe consisting of 3-directional hyperspace fields within fields within 
fields, etc. -- which form their circumferential "membranes" out of parallel 
"strings" of primal force. 

Thus, this fractal progression of the lower mind-matter fields of each monad, 
continues indefinitely, down to the smallest particle (light) of our 
phenomenal universe -- with each particle having an analogous and 
corresponding seven fold nature. But this, too, is only an "ideal" model of 
the "beginning," And, it goes much deeper when we begin to consider when and 
how the "symmetry" breaks, and all the myriad forms of Nature begin to 
"precipitate" out of the seven fold fields of consciousness on each plane 
until they reach the physical plane. But, this is a mystery that can only be 
comprehended intuitively on the highest planes of one's inner nature. 
(Although, I found it more or less clearly explained, symbolically, in the 
SD-I and II.) Incidentally, some of the more abstruse new theories of science 
such as chaos, complexity and simplicity, in conjunction with the synthesis 
(by Superstring/M-brane theory) of quantum and relativity theories, have also 
come close to mathematically and coenergetically explaining these non 
symmetrical field effects. When these scientists finally realize that the 
experience of consciousness (awareness) is the function of the zero-point, 
they all will finally become theosophists -- as HPB predicted might happen in 
this century.:-)

Incidentally, I arrived at the Cosmic string-membrane ABC theory purely 
intuitively (long before I knew anything about string physics). This insight 
was based on my natural ability (plus some years of pioneering experience at 
the cutting edge of "ray tracing" 3-D computer graphics development) -- 
enabling me to see such fields as transparent images in my mind's eye -- and 
follow their lines of construction through innumerable twists and turns 
without falling off the track. (But, then, I have always been good at 
following labyrinths and mazes. :-) Of course, I didn't start looking in 
those directions until I started comparing the SD and the Stanzas with the 
occult teachings of Don Juan, Pythagorus, Hermes, Paracelsus, Gurdjieff, 
Crowley, Leadbeater, Ouspensky, and dozens of other occultists, along with 
scientists such as Einstein, Heisenberg, Bohm, Pribam, Kaku, Sheldrake, 
Goswami, etc... And began to see their common thread of occult metaphysics. 
By this method, I was able to separate the wheat from the chaff, and end up 
with an entirely consistent coenergetic geometric model of the Cosmos, along 
with all its analogous and corresponding reflective differentiation's -- that 
correspond with the symbolic formulas in Book of Dzyan.

Since the upper inner field is the first to start forming, it is the vehicle 
that reflects the outer field of spirit. These two fields, being above the 
zero-point are, in a sense, spiritual, and do not further involve on a level 
that we can understand or perceive. However, as their strings or rays 
descend below the center point, they become lower in frequency/energy -- and, 
thereby, increase in density. Thus, the lower circle represents the more 
substantial aspects of Matter -- where somewhat different physical laws come 
into effect. (On the microcosmic human plane these three initial monadic 
fields are represented by Atma, Buddhi, Manas.) 

As the involution proceeds from the primal beginning -- the lower inner field 
in each subsequent triune monad fractally replicates the higher monad that 
gave it birth. Therefore, it takes five such inner stages of involution to 
complete the entire ideal Cosmos consisting of 14 inner fields within the 
primal surrounding, or supreme spiritual field. Additionally, each monad's 
zero-point centers of consciousness continue to reflect and descend with 
them. On the lowest physical plane (as above, so below) these changes 
continue on indefinitely until the zero-points of all forms are everywhere. 
I tried to indicate these changes in the above notated diagram link. 


[Katinka]
Do you agree with Steve's interpretation of your work that the 

different universes are in fact only our individual interpretations 

of these universes?

[Leon]
No. I don't agree. The potential for creating infinitudes of different 
universes, each with their own particular space, are essential aspects of the 
Absolute -- which is omniscient, omnipresent an omnipotent, and is the root 
of the fundamental laws of karma. How many spinning zero-points can you count 
on the head of a pin? How many axial directions can each of them be spinning 
on? This means that while it must follow the fundamental cyclic laws in any 
of its periodical manifestations, it can also create an infinite number of 
parallel universes -- that follow those same laws, but exist in different 
hyperspace dimensions of primal space... And, that also follow the same 
fundamental spherical field forms as in this particular universe that we are 
experiencing (during this phase of our evolution). 

>From a strictly material point of view, we might say that each stage of 
involution from the spiritual to the physical is a universe in itself -- 
since their fields all are infinitely divisible. Also, each human being, 
including every cell which contains a replica of the genetic code, are also 
universes in themselves. We can picture this as analogous to a large 
hologram of infinitely small graininess, which, no matter how small a piece 
we cut out of it -- the entire 3-dimensional image (encoded in its 
interference patterns) can still be reconstructed and projected without any 
loss of quality. That's also why geneticists can clone an almost perfect 
animal from a single cell. Thus, my fractal, holographic, multidimensional, 
coenergetic, spherical universe concept (with consciousness as an inherent 
function of the ubiquitous zero-point) explains it all -- metaphysically, 
scientifically, philosophically, and religiously.

I hope this makes these ideas a little bit clearer. 


Best wishes,

Leon
http://tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics