Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00250)

In a message dated 06/25/03 3:16:53 PM, bartl@sprynet.com writes:

>In your case, the terminology you are using, regardless of your real 
>opinions, makes you appear haughty and egotistical. Yes, H. P. Blavatsky
>used similar language sometimes, but the occasions were few and far 
>between, and, to a certain extent, she had the right to say them, 
>because she was starting the movement. And, to a certain extent, she 
>turned off a lot of potential students by using them, as well.

Getting tired of this futile personality nonsense. This is simply your own 
perceptions. And what hang ups you have that precipitate them are strictly in 
your own mind. As for the rest of us, we can make our own decisions as to what 
is "haughty and egotistical" and what is not. (And, in any cases, what 
difference would that make as to the validity of what we hear or read?) Frankly I 
think your perceptions are, to say the least, full of crap. Most of us "true 
(vid: "honest") theosophists" read what people say and interpret the meanings 
for ourselves based on our own ideas and perceptions and what theosophical 
knowledge we have learned... And generally, I would assume, don't (or at least 
try not to) apply personal prejudices in making our judgments as to the validity 
of the statements made or quotations given. Besides, what gives you the 
chutzpah to say what right anyone else has to say what they need to say in any way 
they want to or can say it? If you are one of the students HPB "turned off" 
for using the forms of language she chose, why are you here discussing her 
work? And what has starting a movement got do with any rights HPB had to speak 
her truth in any way she needed to or was capable of? Now I know why ULT and 
the Theosophy Company requests that any public speakers or writers on 
theosophical ideas remain anonymous. It's to keep judgmental people like you from 
making presumptions about, or "turning off" what they say based on personality 
factors. On the other hand, if you are a long time theosophist, haven't you 
understood yet that HPB said much more between her lines than she said within 
them? The last three keys are as obvious in HPB's writing to the "intuitive 
student," as well as to an "Adept," as if she had written them in stone. She 
telegraphed this in so many places in her writings that it would be pointless to 
point them out... Especially to those who are only capable of skimming the 
surface of esoteric or occult realities. So, maybe it's about time we all woke up 
and smelled the coffee before spouting our inconsequential and ad hominem 
comments about other people's ideas and perceptions -- about ALL aspects of "true 
theosophy" (which we can either know intuitively, or not -- depending on our 
"readiness" to learn as well as our level of "self realization"). So, where 
are you pontificating from with your inconsequential and time and energy 
wasting personality projections?

LHM