Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00299)

In a message dated 06/28/03 9:23:12 AM, mail@katinkahesselink.net writes:

>Hi Leon,
>
>Doesn't refer to you. Your mails are quite clear in the issue of who 
>is writing what. 
>
Never thought it did. My comment was purely rhetorical and was written to 
assure Sufilight (and other who might want to speak out) that their 
contributions to the study of theosophy (or their questions) would be well received by 
most of us who think in terms of the theosophical ideas presented rather than the 
personalities of the presenters or their attributions. Not referring to you, 
but there are (and have been) some shrill people on this forum who spend more 
time and words knocking down other peoples ideas and personal flaws using 
gossip and other ad hominem techniques (with a touch of mystical jabberwocky) than 
presenting their own ideas in any cogent form. It's like the kettle calling 
the pot black -- which makes no contribution to theosophical discussion. Hard 
questions referring to theosophical ideas are one thing, but gratuitous 
remarks consisting of unfounded, and mostly self serving negative opinions on a 
personal level are quite another. Especially when the credibility or 
understanding of any person (including HPB) in the eyes of others, is denigrated using 
such methods -- that violate every principle of friendly theosophical 
discussion. A case in point is a gratuitous recent, gossipy and self righteous letter 
referring to me, that is so off the wall and obviously self serving as to not 
warrant any waste of my time in answering. Of course, the persons who write 
such letters are welcome to keep on putting their foot in their mouths so the 
rest of us will finally understand where they are coming from and take some 
action to turn them off one way or another in this unmoderated and open forum. 
(One way being to assign their letters to the trash can before opening -- 
although it could be fun to read them first, providing you don't take them 
personally. :-) My good theosophical advice, in any event, is to never give a care 
about what other people say about you. To repeat, as the Master said, "The proof 
is in the pudding not in the pudding maker." Some people can only make 
themselves credible by tooting their own horn while stepping on and denigrating the 
credibility of others. Let those whom the shoe fits, wear it. 

Best regards,

Leon

>Katinka
>
>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
>> 
>> In a message dated 06/24/03 12:43:57 PM, mail@k... writes:
>> 
>> >Hi Sufilight,
>> >
>> > way this discussion is panning out reminded me of the Maha Chohan 
>> >letter. See:
>> >http://www.katinkahesselink.net/chohan.htm
>> >Reading it through, I somehow don't think it applies to the present 
>> >discussion, but the style is so like some of your more recent mails 
>> >that it is no wonder a few of us thought you were impersonating a 
>> >mahatma.
>
>> >Katinka
>
>> 
>> If that statement referred to me, I would take it as the highest 
compliment 
>> with respect to the wisdom expressed in the mailings -- regardless of 
>> who said it. Keep up the good work Sufilight. This forum needs some wise 
>> and thoughtful commentaries with respect to "true theosophy"- which 
>>should be discussed rather than nitpicked with ad homonym remarks.
>
>> LHM