Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00142)

In a message dated 07/13/03 12:07:22 AM, bartl@sprynet.com writes:

>Blavatsky said that you can't be a Communist and 
>Theosophist at the same time; I'm not so sure of that, but it 
>certainly seems that way.

How so? Please quote where and in what context she said that? Are you just a 
knee jerk McCarthy-Nixon-Reagan style "anti communists" or do you know the 
difference between true "communism" or "communalism" and Russian/Chinese/Korean 
style "Bolshevism"?

>. . .calling Bush's administration proto-Nazi is like calling vegetarians 
>proto-Nazi's because Hitler was a vegetarian. In both cases, 
>absolutely vital differences are ignored.

Yes, but the early National Socialist Workers Party agenda that was backed by 
American and German Industrialists had none of the dictatorial actions later 
incorporated by Hitler (who turned on his "handlers" who thought he was their 
"stooge") that we associate with "Nazism." 

> That is untrue and irrelevant. He owned stock in a bank that did 
>business in Nazi Germany, but was by no means a "primary backer". 
>And Ted Kennnedy's FATHER was a major early backer of the Nazi 
>movement; why aren't you calling HIM a Nazi?

Since when did I call anyone a Nazi? All I implied was that the present 
administration was following an agenda similar to that of the Early National 
Socialist German Workers Party movement that was based on the power of a "Military 
Industrial complex" that Hitler used as the basis of his later dictatorial 
police state actions -- which is similar to what is germinating in America today. 
In the early days of Nazism in Germany, Hitler fooled many American 
Industrialists and their hangers on such as Kennedy and Lindberg, who only could only 
see the benefits to them of the industrial build up of Germany instigated by 
the deals made with the party by the German Industrialists who were primed by 
Investments from the American and British banking firms in cahoots with them.

> Do your own research. Foster Bush was never charged with anything of 
>the sort. Now, if you want to talk about PRESCOTT Bush, yes, he was 
>investigated for it, and his stock in the bank was confiscated, along 
>with the stock of Democrat elder statesman, Averil Harriman, who 
>also has not had "Nazi" charges dogging him. Neither, however, was 
>convicted of any criminal action.

I did my research -- which has been ongoing since WW II when I personally 
heard the plans being laid down for the post war Military Industrial Complex and 
got curious about how they would carry them out. My father also was connected 
with the government Office of War Production, with his brother a senior 
partner of a large Wall Street Brokerage firm, and we had lots of interesting notes 
to compare after I returned from overseas duty (and brought into the country 
the first unauthorized photos published in the US of the Nazi extermination 
camps). Yes, I meant Prescott Bush, not Foster. The banking firm referred to 
was Brown Brothers Harriman, the world's largest private investment bank, in 
which Prescott Bush was a major partner. For a clear picture of this chain of 
war making and war profiteering actions since WW I -- which the Bush family 
participated in and ultimately became the fronters for the present elitist 
Military Industrial Complex managers, check out:
http://www.tarpley.net/bush1.htm If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck 
and acts like a duck, it's a duck. So draw your own conclusions about the 
nature of the present administration.