Theos-Talk Archives (August 2003 Message tt00001)

Leon wrote: <<So, you see, I have a hard time dealing with 
people who speculate between one thing and another, or see 
things as either black or white. >>

What I was trying to find words for in that last post of mine had 
to do with (as far as I can figure) not so much a matter of black 
and white or grayscales, per se, as much as whatever might be 
one's ... (how can I describe it ... ^:-/...) like a fundamental or 
primary life interest (or how about "heart felt," or "heart-related," 
or "heartific," basic motivational thing, or heart-root/basic nature 
(as might be exhibited, in various ways, even during one's much 
younger days), say ... nice Theosophical word that "heartific," eh, 
tee hee he?) in relation to such as transcending karma or 
Theosophics, so that, along those kinds of criteria, the impression 
(rightly or wrongly), that you seem to have created in my mind 
(apparently, as per your ABC's, scientifics and such ...) is that 
there would appear to be much emphasis on your part on ... or, to 
put it another way: it's as if (as per the impression that I seem to 
have developed) you seem to be fascinated by the multiplicity, 
variety, complexity of your apparent (interpretive/karmic) 
environment to the extent that your intellectuall involvements 
seem to be largely rooted in that kind of multiplicity instead of, 
as a result of a kind of going back to basics (a "basics" in keeping 
with those who would kind of "heartifically" transcend karma, to 
my way of thinking, speculating) ... so instead of, in a sense, 
winding down (as might be expected of those who might have 
some kind of "realistic interest" in such as transcending karma?), 
you seem to be winding up, instead, as per the impession you 
seem to be creating, Leon, with (what might be called?) your 
scientizing and intellectualizing (which, after all, are just so 
many karmic/mayavic residues in need of venting in order to 
ferret out the "basics" beyond such phenomenal, karmic, mayavic 
appearances---or do you see it that way?), so ... ^:-) ... Hmm ... 

Speculatively,
Mauri

PS Yesterday went to a talk given by Radha Bernier. I very 
much enjoyed her talk. Found out that her father's father was 
involved in Theosophy in India during HPB's time. The topic of 
the talk was "Spiritual Regeneration." That is, apparently the 
materialistic, selfish ways of mankind are in need of fixing, which 
made much sense to me. At the end of the talk we in the 
audience got to ask questions. My question was "how would 
you define free will in relation to the Esoteric Tradition?" 
Apparently, as per my interpetation, she responded to the effect 
that "free will" has to do with some form of deep reflection and 
spiritual regeneration (if I have it right). My recall of her answer, 
in more specific terms, seems vague, though. 

PPS Afterward, talking to somebody about that talk, I said if I were
to 
give some kind of Theosophical talk, people would probably all 
fall asleep in about five minutes, if not leave, or die laughing,
or whatever.

PPPS In other words, it's not that I don't sympathize with you, Leon, 
but/"but"... ^:-) ...