Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00114)

Hi ----,

Hope you don't mind my posting this letter to theos-talk (which also got my 
original informational post to bn-study) -- since I don't want to bring them 
off topic. (But, I'm sure some of their members also subscribe to this open 
forum, and our comments might be interesting to all other theosophists as well.)

Thanks for clarifying that those links and my concluding comment did not 
relate to any particular call for political action on the part of theosophists. 
But, was offered just to show us what problems we (and all others, even 
worldwide) are facing as a result of the present US governmental actions that are 
ignoring and counteracting the theosophical basis of the founding of the United 
States -- as an experiment in a practical democratic government resting on 
theosophical principles of liberty, brotherhood, equality, and unity in diversity 
-- that the founding fathers, as agents of the Masters, set up and carried out 
effectively enough to keep these ideas alive for over 225 years. Unfortunately
, all that is being usurped for dubious reasons that must be faced by all of 
us -- as believers in self government and freedom of choice. What we can do 
about it, however, is strictly our own individual decision.  

In any event, I agree with you that there's nothing much we can do in 
healing the body politic itself -- but perhaps, we can, both individually and 
collectively, work toward more effective and practical ways to make people aware of 
these problems (which are bleeding over to Europe and the Middle East) while 
educating them toward understanding those principles and the theosophical 
teachings behind them -- so that they might take responsibility for, and dowhat 
they can to reestablish such principles of government for their own and others 
benefit. I make my point by quoting two true American patriots -- who, in 
essence, could be speaking from a theosophical basis.

"But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the 
people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wishto 
secure the blessing.   It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in yourStates 
as well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, 
March 4, 1837 

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin 

As for the rest of your comments, I think that you're right in thinking abut 
how futile such action may be in the face of the current corruption. But, 
this runs through out entire social structure that operates on all the wrong 
values. So perhaps, death is not the solution, and maybe there is possibility to 
change those values. At least, we ought to think about it in such a positive 
manner, since HPB predicted that this "time" would come at the beginning of 
this millennium, and that it would be up to educated and self realized 
theosophists to see that it didn't end in the death of this entire wave of humanity, and 
set us back another million years of evolution.  

Hopefully,

Leon 

In a message dated 10/08/03 2:53:47 PM, ----- writes:

>Hi Leon,
>
>Just wanted to thank you for the links. They are both timely and the speech
>is riveting. I understand Reeds position and concern about getting off
>track. However, like you, I feel that Theosophy must be expressed in 
practical
>ways, in order to be meaningful. But how does one even begin to address
>the healing needs of the body politic. Seems to me that the corruption
>is so far advanced, death is the only cure. Hopefully, it will not take
>the rest of our social structure with it. Then again, maybe it's time.
>
>Best regards,
>-----
>You wrote:
>
>Friends,
>
>Not to change the subject -- but for another interesting link that might
>assure us that there is no separation between theosophy, brotherhood, prayer
>and political action on both domestic and worldwide levels -- see: 
>http://www.house.gov/kucinich/press/sp-020217-prayer.htm
>
>And then check out the following URL to see how scientists and philosophers
>are putting theosophical ideas into practical application -- while finding 
out 
>who their mentors are, and what they have to say that rests on theosophical
>principles and fulfills at least two of the objects of the Theosophical
>Movement.  
>http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
>
>Could this be a practical wake up call for all us theosophists who are
>sitting on our duffs waiting for someone else to do the job that HPB told
>us was our duty and mission to help accomplish?  So, while study is very 
>important, what are we doing to make practical theosophy a living reality 
>amongst all people -- before our time runs out -- as HPB warned us in her 
>"Message to American Theosophists."
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Lenny
>