Theos-Talk Archives (November 2003 Message tt00185)

<<Mauri, Thanks for your response, as always. 
I need to clarify to you my use of the term 
"Gnomon," I use the word in the sense of a 
Sundial that has a central Pylon vertical at 
the center and as a result casts a shadow 
caused by the Suns light, the shadow is cast 
and moves on the Dial surface and "indicates" 
the time of day. I am not intending any other 
form such as "Gnosis" or a person's knowledge 
or deficiency of knowledge. I only used the 
term as a tool meaning "Indicator" which 
distinguishes between Light and Darkness, 
Primary and Secondary, Original Nature and 
Corporeal Carnate Nature as a Metaphor. >>

Me too, basically, in a sense, I think ...

<<But, I do agree that we are all Gnomons or 
indicators as we are all at
this level unique differentiation's and human 
beings , "Seekers" if you will, or we
would not be on this list.>>

Me to basically, in a sense, I think ...

<<The True and the Secondary are not a 
representation or assessment of any one in 
particular, but are only referencing a 
Metaphysical Reality on the scale of 
magnitude of the Creation in which we find 
our common participation as per Dallas's post 
today on the Globes and Rounds. Like I 
said, Karma has a Habitation, which means a 
definite locality of manifestation. It can 
only have activity or process when a Creation 
is in manifestation and that is what I call 
the Secondary.>>

Okay, me too, that about "True and 
Secondary," but I think I also had in mind 
(what might be seen as ...) an "extension, or 
sorts" (well, speculatively speaking, hence 
the quotes) of such a definition in some 
"more individual sense" that, at the same 
time, might be seen, (by some?), to serve 
double duty, in a sense, to an extent, in 
whatever "Broader context," say ... Not that 
we might not all have our own various 
definitions for "True and Secondary" in 
whatever sense, context.

<<The premise is that the Absolute
is Absolute by definition and remains 
unchanged and unmarked and not beholden to
Karma. Our Original Nature which is in the 
Absolute is unmarked and unstained and
in terms of the Absolute and Unity has never 
moved and never departed. So
on the scale of magnitude of our 
individuality here we are two realities, one 
awake in the Light, the other asleep in the 
Darkness as the Gnostic would say. So there 
is neither departing or arriving and "Lila" 
is the word used in India to communicate this 
overall condition or process and translates 
as "sport" referencing Vishnu as Creator that
in his sleep dreams the Universes. This only 
is a metaphor to indicate the
Mayavic reality when creation (the 
secondary) is referenced to the Primary, the 
Absolute. John >>>

For whatever reason, I seem to find myself 
basically agreeing with you, in a sense, to 
some extent, apparently ... Why? Hmm ... I 
don't seem to "know enough about that," 
exactly. On the other hand, if "agreeing" is 
basically just as "karmic/mayavic" as 
"disagreeing"... ^:-/ Not that ...

Speculatively,
Mauri