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re Leon and Master Jesus

Jan 01, 2004 01:51 PM
by Mauri


Leon wrote: << Didn't the Master Jesus say, "The Kingdom of Heaven must be
taken with the sword?">>

How would you know, Leon, what Master Jesus said? I'm tending to be under the impression that whatever anybody said a couple of thousand years ago might, at best, have been somewhat altered over time by a number of people.

<<And, didn't HPB say, " . . . by one's self devised and self determined efforts?" Doesn't effort = force -- even if interpreted as a directed force of will leading to "concentration" of the mind that is the first and final rule of meditation? In the "Ten Bulls" koan of Zen teaching, the bull, representing the mind, must be conquered by force. Isn't that conquering shown in the Sixth Bull as the boy riding his bull with a whip in his belt and his hands on a flute? Aren't all true students of theosophy, that boy? >>

Last time I used any kind of what might be called "force" in my meditation, a long time ago, the result was such an odd sensantion on one side of my head that I had to give up that kind of meditation. Lately, my "just being" doesn't seem to have given me any problems. I guess I might be saying that how one interprets "force" might be relevant in connection with whatever, not that I would use that word in relation to spirituality or meditation, myself.

Speculatively, and best wishes,
Mauri





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