Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00028)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "alden_parent" <alden_parent@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon B Tucker" <eldon@t...> 
> wrote:
> > One other comment on this note based on an article in DISCOVER 
> MAGAZINE. 
> ********************
> 
> Christina & Eldon,
> 
> Thank you both for your input and references.
> I knew of a Vortex concept but not to this extent.It
> was more on how planets rotate within a vortex in
> space. A Vortex Theorem such as this would be in line
> with a " Riemann Surface" concept of a vortex. That is;
> it would spiral and have a line of symmetry as represented
> by the non-trivial zeros in the Riemann zeta function; and
> also as seen in the distribution of "prime" numbers in
> the Prime Number Pattern. I would like to see the math
> proof on this theory!
> 
> On the matter of " dark matter" also called
> ( funny energy ). I was under the impression that they
> did not know what it was comprised of; hence named "funny
> energy". Of course I may not be up to date on these matters.
> 
The idea of anti-gravity sounds unreal however!
It is generally believed that gravity pulls us downward;
but what if gravity is a force that is actually gently
pushing, and not pulling. This is a possibility and is
a way of understanding why gravity is difficult to
reconcile with " electro magnetism", the "weak & strong"
forces, etc. Anti-gravity would have to be like outer
space and require no counter-force. How does one do that?

> 

> Again thanks,
> 
> Alden
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> 
> > It doesn't mention dark and light energy, just dark energy and 
> three kinds
> > of matter (non-luminous ordinary, luminous ordinary, and dark). 
> There's one
> > type of energy and three of matter, with energy accounting for 
> about three
> > times as much of what exists (.73 is about 3 times .27).
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eldon B Tucker [mailto:eldon@t...] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:30 PM
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Theos-World Four Aspects of the Universe
> > 
> > Alden:
> > 
> > There's an article in the December 2003 DISCOVER MAGAZINE that 
> talks about
> > your question. On page 45, it says, "Here are the results of the 
> latest
> > cosmic census detailing what is really out there." I believe 
> that "dark
> > matter" and "anti-matter" would be the same thing, like in 
ordinary 
> matter
> > there's an electron (with a negative charge) that corresponds to 
a 
> positron
> > (with a positive charge) in dark matter.
> > 
> > With both ordinary and dark matter and ordinary and dark energy, 
> we'd have
> > four ingredients to things. From the DISCOVER article, we read:
> > 
> > 73 PERCENT DARK ENERGY
> > 
> > "Measurement of the expansion of the universe show it is 
> accelerating,
> > apparently driven by a mysterious repulsion. ... the repulsion 
> could be
> > caused by energy latent in space itself."
> > 
> > 23 PERCERT DARK MATTER
> > 
> > "Observations of the way galaxies move and rotate show that they 
> seem to be
> > surrounded by a vast amount of unseen matter. ... most of this 
> matter cannot
> > consist of ordinary atoms."
> > 
> > 4 PERCENT NONLUMINOUS ORDINARY MATTER
> > 
> > "The Big Bang models, along with the studies of primordial 
> microwaves,
> > predict how many conventional atoms should be out there -- and 
the 
> result is
> > much more that can be accounted for by stars alone. Some dark 
> objects have
> > been directly observed or indirectly detected by the way they 
> deflect light
> > or interact gravitationally with visible stars."
> > 
> > 0.4 PERCENT LUMINOUS MATTER
> > 
> > "These are the stars, nebulas, and galaxies we see ... The 
density 
> of
> > luminous matter is so small that it falls within the rounding 
> errors of dark
> > matter and dark energy, which is why the numbers add up to more 
> that 100
> > percent."
> > 
> > -- Eldon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alden_parent [mailto:alden_parent@y...] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:24 PM
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Theos-World Three Elements of Universe
> > 
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > We know that "matter" and "anti-matter"
> > along with a third "dark matter" (funny energy) 
> > are in the universes. I would say that the dark
> > matter perhaps had an effect on the other two not
> > cancelling each other out after the " Big Bang".
> > I would also think that dark matter is perhaps
> > also the origin of the spiritual/metaphysical
> > in those universes, assuming it was already in
> > existence: Or is it too as a result of the "Bang"?
> > 
> > What do you think anyone? (Leon) ? Scientist!
> > 
> > Alden
> > 
> > 
> > 
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