Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00281)

Dear Dirk.

Thank you for your references and update on your theoretical work. 

I think we may yet be approaching a conformance between our two views, which 
like the five string theories seem to be looking at the same thing from 
different points of view. 

My ABC view, based on finding a logical source of the fundamental laws of 
cycles and periodicity which govern all phenomena, begins at the zero point of 
primal beginning... That I see (looking from the inside out) as; 

An abstract sphere of spinning primal force (uninhibited angular momentum of 
absolute space I call "spinergy") in its pre cosmic state of perfect 
supersymmetry and superspinergetic balance -- composed of infinite dimensionless lines 
of angular (circular) motion, spinning (both clockwise and counterclockwise on 
an infinite number of axes at infinite degrees of potential 
velocity-frequency) around a static zero-point of absolute emptiness... The "rootless root" or 
"causeless cause" of everything that is, was or ever will be...

Out of which -- as the result of positive and negative emanation in opposite 
directions from a single rotating axis of that point source of near infinite 
energy -- appears the first triune root in spherical metric space of our 
sidereal physical universe (among countless other universes beyond our comprehension 
that emanate from an infinite number of other axes)... 

This initial root monad subsequently involves fractally in fixed sequential 
phase changes (harmonically related to the fundamental laws of cycles and 
periodicity) into the coadunate but not consubstantial coenergetic hyperspace 
membranes of our sidereal universe... That encompass the nested 7 fold fields of 
consciousness from spirit (at near infinite frequency-energy) to physical matter 
or metric mass-energy at the frequency-energy spectrums of the combined 
(physical-mechanical) electromagnetic force fields -- which includes gravity, (at 
the lowest frequency-energy spectrum & longest wave length), through the 
radio<light>X-ray spectrum, the weak force, to the strong force, and thence to the 
gluon force at the highest frequency-energy-mass level (shortest wave length in 
our space time continuum). 

See the symbolic cross sectional energy flow diagrams of the first positive 
ray that defines the first 3-cycle involved triune field and its subsequent 
fractal involution's at:

http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/invlutionflddiagnotate.gif

Note: Not shown is the negative or "dark" ray that emanates in the opposite 
direction, and interweaves with the positive ray that super-symmetrically 
balances our experiential "light" universe -- which may account for the inertial 
forces and may constitute the root of dark-matter and the antiparticles of 
relativity theory. This may also be the basis of the dual energetic "Superstring" 
postulated by current M-brane theory and also, possibly, the dual 
negative-positive ground of your positive interconnected string theory (if I read it 
correctly). It also gives us an exact model of the DNA code and its structure that 
contributes to the replication and growth of all organic forms.

However, I see "strings" as being the positive peaks of cyclic (vibrational 
information carrying waves of energy between two adjacent spirally intertwined 
"superstrings" that form the positive and negative surface winding of a 
spherical outer "M-brane" that is linked together at its center point of common 
origin of the spiral Superstrings (representing the primal attractive and 
repulsive forces of gravity) through two inner spherical fields that are also 
polarized and that can each be similarly fractalized in an infinite series of closed 
polar field sub membranes through descending orders of frequency-energy phase. 
This triple monadic form and its infinite series of involution's, would then 
become the fundamental basis of each analogous hyperspace-time continuum in 
harmonious octaval, decimal, or duodecimal descent. 

Since all these spherical hyperspace fields are linked together as an unbr
eakable unity, through a common zero-point source and also through their zero 
points of tangency, I think that any Superstring/M-brane theory, to become a 
unified field theory of everything, must consider all these hyperspace and 
physical space fields -- along with all their analogous knots of force lines or 
"strings" in the layer between the superstrings that represent all the particles 
and beings in them -- as a gestalt system... i.e., A unified whole composed of 
parallel spiraling Superstrings of positive and negative gravitational energy 
-- with, between them, electromagnetic force fields surrounding vibrating 
strings that carry information which can be coenergetically transferred 
inductively between them in the form of holographic wave interference patterns... These 
are the links I see between the hyperspace-time along with the metric 
space-time-matter fields (at varying degrees of substantiality), and the zero-points 
of perceptive consciousness (or awareness/will) that must be the inherent 
nature of these field's ubiquitous zero-point centers of origination and their 
zero-point tangence's or crossover points. 

As I see it, the above picture, although not here fully formulated, leaves no 
loose ends between ontology and epistemology, and when thoroughly described 
mathematically, will adequately account for all the inherent positive and 
negative electrical forces and fundamental particles that make up our present 
universe... As well as link those material aspects with consciousness or spirit 
having an essential nature of both awareness and will (the energy of one aspect 
directed inward, and the other, outward, with one receptive and the other 
creative)... Thus, the yin and yang expressed throughout all of conditioned 
reality. 

Thus, since my interest goes beyond the mundane concerns of physical science, 
such a complete theory will -- besides explaining all the current scientific 
hard problems related to human consciousness such as, brain-mind-memory 
binding, the genetic code, qualia, psi phenomena, etc. -- also considers the 
consciousness of those higher order entities that constitute the pre-human "Builders" 
or "Architects" that guided the initial Cosmogenesis, as well as those higher 
conscious entities that continue to guide the evolution of the present wave 
of life on this planet... The fundamental assumption being that all forms of 
matter in the universe is potentially conscious -- since, whatever its form or 
"fullness," or "string" configuration, it must always be integrally tied to its 
spiritual (conscious) center at its "empty" zero-point of origination 
surrounded with its inherent "spinergy" that empowers both the forms and the will 
behind their consciously directed changes. 

In that sense, I see our respective present attempts to achieve scientific 
clarity from possibly different points of view (as well as their eventual 
synthesis) as a worthwhile effort not only toward achieving those ends, but also in 
the interests of verifying, from both a material and spiritual point of view, 
the theosophical "synthesis of science, religion and philosophy" as outlined 
in the Secret Doctrine -- as well as giving us a basis for understanding our 
own seven fold natures, and the linkages between them and the powers within 
them, that are under our individual mind and will to self-control for the benefit 
of both ourselves and others.

Further comments in your message below.

Best wishes,

Leon


In a message dated 01/09/04 1:08:44 PM, dirk@mu6.com writes:

>Dear Leon,
>
>Much thank for all your information, interesting website, and the links
>
>(the Electric Sun is a great article ... with the double layer). Thank
>you also for the long reactions on my previous posts. For your 
>information: I am Dutch speaking so some sentences may look a little 
>bite strange.
>
>Leon, before going further in discussions about M-branes, etc. I want 
>to share first some of my conceptual concerns on electricity.
>
>Conceptual I always had a problem with 'fields'. What is a field?
>Our quest goes for a unification concept. So we need to start at the 
>top.
"
I would say to start from the beginning, when matter/energy and time was 
completely one or unified, all action was dormant, and consciousness was in the 
bliss of perfect and tensionless harmony. 

>Unification or Unity means 'indestructibility' but also constant 
>connectivity of all possible parts and forms of manifestation: 
>interconnectivity. No breaking, no tearing. There is always Unity, but
>in our conscious and physic realities: restructured Unity.
>The definition 'FIELD' doesn't give me that aspect of Unity, to me - 
>personally - a field is a totality of separated events which influence
>each other.
>Therefor I use the concept 'membrane', which is indestructible (almost
>infinite elastic) and dynamic. That's all. There is not else. You, 
>Dallas, Alden, Daniel, Bart ... me ... we are LOCALLY restructured 
>Unity.

I agree that the fundamental form at the first triune spherical monadic stage 
of Cosmogenesis, and all fractal iterations thereafter, must be a continuous 
membrane as you describe above. But, this unified membrane must also be 
subject to self involution and transformation into separate "fields" of action, 
levels of consciousness, and phases of frequency-energy that appear as apparently 
isolated realms -- that are simply analogously distinguishable parts of the 
overall unity. We must also consider that this membrane is subject to the laws 
of cycles, and periodically inflates out of and contracts into what is 
essentially an infinitely energetic singularity of zero dimensionality.

But, I see that membrane (as the gravitational root) composed of parallel 
entwined superstrings of opposite charge potential (root of light and dark matter 
as well as particles and antiparticles) and extending through the phase 
(frequency-energy order) changes of each separate spherical "field of action" as it 
fractally spirals down through its internal hyperspace in triune monadic 
stages -- from spiritual consciousness at the highest frequency spectrum phase, to 
physical consciousness at the lowest level --- while always returning through 
its central zero-point of origination (which then becomes mirrored 
everywhere). 

I also see these parallel superstrings, both "light" and "dark" as 
zero-points of ineffable absolute space traveling on a joint spiral path that allows 
each string on its particular path to loop into a triune (3 cycle) monadic 
polarized vortex at near infinite frequencies of vibration. These vibrations (of 
which there are at least seven phase levels between near zero and near infinite 
in each string) carry, in the perpendicular ladder of polarized string fields 
between the superstrings, all the holographic information pertaining to the 
structure, and evolutionary experience (Memory) of the previous cycle of 
manifestation, along with their experiential memory. This twin ladder spirals in 
infinite parallel side by side layers that make up the entire surface of the 
triune membrane both inside and outside. 

The strings that form the locally reconstructed unity's are extended as 
vibrational peaks between the superstrings. At the physical field level these 
unity's separation from the membrane is an illusion, since the zero-points of each 
field and sub field, ad infinitum, contain the holographic genetic code of 
all the intermediate forms of the entire involution and evolution of the Cosmic 
whole. Thus, as you say, the interconnectivity is the highest unification 
order. But, because it is based on a dual polar force (represented by the 
positive and negative superstrings) it is the root of Electromagnetism, and, as HPB 
pointed out, is based on the same fundamental laws of cycles and periodicity. 
Therefore, it must be of an analogous electrical nature. 

>As such the interconnectivity is of higher unification order than 
>ElectroMagnetism, and (indestructible) interconnectivity can only be 
>expressed by one effect: gravity.

I think my dual superstring membrane concept agrees with this. Although, in 
my view, Gravity is also a dual force, both attractive and repulsive, positive 
and negative, and is, in a sense, the analogous parent of all subsequent 
forces, including electromagnetism on the lowest frequency-energy order field 
level. in this respect, gravity would also have, in addition to its "electrical" 
charge or force, a magnetic component that gives it inductive power to to carry 
and transfer information through all hyperspace and back to the primal source 
of "Spinergy". 

>So gravity is the prime source. Buddha spoke about: Stress. We can also
>speak about AIN.
>All other forces are specific expression of gravity. Emanations of 
>Interconnectivity.
>How can gravity bring us electricity?

Yes, gravity is the Mother force. And, "electricity" is its fundamental 
nature -- since it is subject to the laws of cycles and periodicity originating 
in the zero-point -- which it transfers to all involved hyperspace fields by 
creating the polarization of each successive involved spherical field of 
consciousness that is analogous to its triune (monadic) initial form. 

We can see this by following the triune monadic field's 3 cycle Mobius knot 
path of the superstrings [the twin forces of gravity] emanating from the 
spinergy of the primal zero-point singularity. 

These fields are always interconnected through their zero-point spinergy that 
contain the entire pattern of all their in-form-ations of their current 
involution's and their past evolutions. These patterns have to be "electrical" (and 
also "magnetic") in nature if they are to be capable of transformation to 
lower energy levels by inductive-resonance (or across energy levels by 
reflective-refractive) processes. Therefore the duality of charge and action reaction 
are established right from the beginning by the first gravity waves of the 
3-cycle primal monad. 

>Conceptually Electricity is the result of an unbalance between two 
>zones with different (vibrational) potency. That implies that there 
>must be 'ISOLATION', that separates two such zones for a given time. 
>When there is no isolation these zones will neutralize each other. So we
>need to construct a locality that embeds duality but separated by an 
>isolated boundary.

This polarization of each spherical field (the locality of embedded duality) 
is what creates the imbalance that "separates" and offers "isolation" of the 
two zones of opposite charge. 

The given time that each such zone remains so separated, depends on the level 
of spinergy-related frequency-energy empowering their superstrings and their 
intermediate strings (which analogously, could become the equivalent of 
superstrings on their particular energy level, since, organic forms continue to 
involve as their growth evolves). 

The apparent separation of such forms from the membrane is only an illusion, 
since we can only be aware of the level of substantiality that our senses are 
functioning on. Therefore, everything, must emanate from the twin superstring 
gravitational membrane monad and be composed of strings grown between them, 
that are, in turn, empowered by the same spinergy of their zero-points... Thus 
a continuous and contiguous unity at the same time. 

>In gravitational perspective: the gravitational membrane that begets 
>itself to become locally a double layered monad (still fully connected,
>better: still BEING part of the Unity). I call such monad a holon (but
>what's in a name?). These monads build up on the membrane in more 
>complex monads. They are like elastic braced on the membrane since they
>are locally restructured membrane.

I think we are saying almost the same thing. Although my double layer is the 
result of the twin superstrings of opposite polarity. I guess I'm stuck with 
them because it the only way I can see to connect the membrane to the 
zero-point spinergy that's at the center of all polar fields and at the poles of all 
spherical energy fields and their triune monadic structure. 

>Since the total membrane system has continuos motion (kinetics) also 
>the layers in all monads move. But since the layers of the monads are 
>PRESSED together we get locally a new effect: Friction 
>(ThermoDynamics). This local friction provokes new secondary 
>oscillations of the embedded layers in each holon. The 'interactions' 
>of physics : EM, Strong and weak forces are different expressions of 
>this local friction. How we call them depends of the type of sensors 
>with which we observe them. Thus their capacity to resonate with the 
>event.

Again, our views coincide.

>We see here also that local friction (in monads and between monads) 
>will also influence the dynamics of total membrane, like the motion of
>the membrane will also influences the monads. A double feedback system.
>Cf. a double pendulum. That leads us to the creation of life. We live -
>and have internal circulation - by the dynamics of the total system.

And, this is where we meet and have effectively linked the dual forces of 
what I would call ElectroGravity to the three dual forces of ElectroMagnetics, 
ElectroWeak Force, and ElectroStrong Force.

> From there you can explain in your way the further building up of 
>reality based on Electricity, and an Electric Sun is very well possible
>and more logic.
>
>On the website http://www.josephnewman.com refers to JAMES CLERK 
>MAXWELL's quote: "In speaking of the Energy of the field, however, I 
>wish to be understood literally. All energy is the same as mechanical 
>energy, whether it exists in the form of motion or in that of 
>elasticity, or in any other form. The energy in electromagnetic 
>phenomena is mechanical energy."
>(there is no source mentioned).
>
>Maxwellian charge and current 
>(http://www.victorianweb.org/science/maxwell.html)
>
>Quote: In modern electromagnetic theory, charge is the source of 
>electric fields, and current is the source of the magnetic fields. In 
>Maxwellian theory, by contrast, charge is produced by the electric 
>field as a result of what was known as "displacement" (of which more 
>anon). As Maxwell and his contemporaries understood it, charge did not
>provoke an image of a substance; it was not a "stuff."

I see charge as the separation or displacement of the zero-point polarity of 
the field (the "stuff") which is held apart by the torsion stress created by 
the closed cycle twisted bending of the twin interlaced positive and negative 
superstrings (the surface of the outer dual sided membrane) and all their 
fractally enfolded, descending order, hyperspace field analogs. Thus, contrary to 
present string theory, I see the gravitational field and all its enfolded 
higher order hyperspace fields as surrounding the gross physical particle fields, 
rather than being enfolded or "compacted" within them. 

>Moreover, current, in the usual sense of the rate of change of charge 
>over time, was related only indirectly to the magnetic field at this 
>time. As historian Jed Buchwald has demonstrated, in Maxwellian theory
>"a current is not a substance to be acted upon; it is merely a 
>condition to be changed." That is, current was not considered as a flow
>of charged particles, but as a series of chargings and dischargings. 
>Maxwellians interpreted these chargings and dischargings as the growth
>and decay of "displacement," that is, the shift in location of some 
>"incompressible substance" (such as the ether) whose very shifting 
>endows it with a potential energy. If nothing happens to change this 
>potential energy, Maxwellians reason that it will simply dissipate, 
>lost as material heat. This loss results in an inequality of 
>displacement values (between say, one charged surface and another, 
>uncharged one) that engenders to a discontinuity between the two 
>regions. The magnitude of this discontinuity is the charge.(end of 
>quote).
>---
>Such a displacement can be seen as the local excitation of the 
>membranes of the holon (monad) that will conduct the excess of these 
>oscillations over it's parent membranes to other distance holons.
>Zero-point? On any spot of the membrane - when the correct oscillations
>are available - holons can be created.

Unfortunately, without a concept of a static and empty zero-point, outside of 
all time and space, upon which the spinergy that forms the gravitational 
membrane and subsequently all the holons (monads) from the universal to the 
particular -- we cannot have consciousness (awareness-will) that both witnesses and 
guides all those imaginary forms that ultimately precipitate out as logically 
causative and interrelated forms. So, even though we can perfectly explain the 
holons and their coenergetic interrelationships without the zero-point, we 
cannot complete the picture and include consciousness, unless we circle back to 
the zero-point and its spinergy and construct a logical causative base from 
which to emanate the gravitational superstrings and establish the cause of their 
tension upon which all energetically dynamic systems rest.

>Leon, I just finished a new webpage on the Yin-Yang system, explained 
>with this membrane approach. You will see that a 3D-concept + Time 
>(dynamics) explain all this. We don't need a Klein-Bottle. 
>http://mu6.com/yin-yang.html .

Very interesting, but a bit confusing to me in its logical assumptions... 
However, without explaining consciousness and how it leads to minds, brains and 
bodies, and whatever they can think about and do -- where are we? Different 
physical interpretations of how the forces work and interrelate are interesting 
and useful, but without explaining the cause and mechanism of consciousness 
(awareness, perception, will, mind, memory, etc.) we can never arrive at a 
cogent theory of everything. 

In any event, according to the ABC view, the formation of the first monadic 
M-brane and its fractal iterations as it steps down in frequency-energy phase 
order, could not occur or maintain its continuous and contiguous unity with 
the zero-point of origination and all its reflections, if the insides of the 
hyperspatial membrane fields was not also its outside -- much like a Mobius 
surface or, with respect to the superstrings, a gordian knot -- rather than a Klein 
bottle. BTW, isn't the illustration you use on your site much like a Klein 
bottle?

As for the connections to the I-Ching, I think the ladder concept of the 
twinned Superstring that make up the membrane is much closer to reality, since the 
ladder-like string code between the spiraling pos. and neg. superstrings is 
identical to the formation of the DNA molecule and its genetic code -- which is 
based on 64 letter combinations of the 4 amino acid bases, to give us a 
language of the "10,000 things" or enpough words to create almost an infinite 
number of structural variations when combined with the potential of holographic 
image interference patterns based on frequency vibrations of the string fields, 
etc. We also have to be able to correlate the fractalization of nature with 
the fractal involution of the primal fields, and I can only see that being 
accomplished with a unified field theory that starts from the zero-point spinergy. 
In this picture, the strings and superstrings are only the secondary elements 
that make up the cyclical and spherical fields which emanate and involve out 
of the zero-point spinergy.

For a picture of the Tai Chi symbol generated from a 2-D cross section of the 
spherical monad that is the basis of all stable field structures, see:
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/manfields.html#anchor1
400318

Incidentally, the picture shown is the shape of the polarized field of any 
photon of light on any phase level or hyperspace field. The distance between 
the fading lines as the light ray spirals toward us represents the particular 
frequency of the color of the light, as the wave front particle comes in and out 
of existence. 

I hope you can follow all this, since I would like to find a bridge where 
this starting from zero origin that generates the fractal hyperspace fields of 
infinite involvement merges with your unique concept of how the eventual strings 
work after the continuous multidimensional membrane is established and 
fundamental supersymmetry is broken. 

Best wishes,

LHM