Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00124)

correction. That post does reads kinda funny. I should have said that 
atheism and homosexuality go together, and that former Jews (as in 
the religion) are the poster child for this "new" lifestyle. That 
would be more accurate I think.

Netemara

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" <netemara888@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel H. Caldwell" 
> <danielhcaldwell@y...> wrote:
> > Apparentely Netemara888 wrote:  
> > 
> > "Well, hell most Jews are now atheists 
> > and homosexuals. . . ."
> > 
> > Ah, I see.....a generalization.....
> > 
> > I will have to show some of my Jewish friends 
> > this statement. I can imagine their reactions.
> > 
> > Netemara888, I ask you:
> > 
> > Do you REALLY believe that MOST Jews are now 
> > atheists and homosexuals?
> > 
> > And even IF this was REALLY true, are you implying 
> > that it is somehow BAD to be an atheist or homosexual 
> > or both??!!
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> I am not saying bad or good, just the power of the Jewish media to 
> push their brand of the American dream which includes plenty of the 
> above two ingredients.
> 
> 
> If this characterization is so false then why don't Jews, who are 
> neither, use their influence on the Jewish-run Hollow-wood to show 
> something else? This is why The Passion is so damn popular. It 
> reflects some kind of values. IMO genteel people are getting tired 
of 
> the parody of life as Jews think we should all see it and live it. 
I 
> basically boycott movies.
> 
> Netemara
> 
> Netemara
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" 
<netemara888@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Ali Hassan" 
> <ananda_hotai@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...>
> > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: ". . .HPB is regarded by some 
> > people 
> > > as a 
> > > > >forerunner of Hitler...."
> > > > >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:10:11 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Ali Hassan wrote:
> > > > > > Where do you see a connection between Bailey? I don't see 
> any 
> > > connection
> > > > > > between Blavatsky/Bailey and 'H' anywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > >	Well, let's see the Bailey connections:
> > > > >
> > > > >	1) Identification of Nordic Europeans with "Aryans".
> > > > 
> > > > She mentions them as a subrace of the 5th "Aryan" race. 
Nowhere 
> > > does she 
> > > > contradict HPB that I've seen, but fills in gaps in a most 
> > > detailed 
> > > > fashion. Considering HPB's own gigantic work offering plenty 
of 
> > > > opportunities, that's a major statement.
> > > > 
> > > > >	2) Identification of Africans and Asians as belonging 
to 
> > > earlier root
> > > > >races.
> > > > 
> > > > She does that. Nowhere does she imply inferiority or racial 
> > > prerogative in 
> > > > vehicles. Some people think a new Toyota Camry is best; some 
> > prefer 
> > > a '57 
> > > > Ford T-Bird convertible.
> > > > 
> > > > >	3) Identification as the Jews as inferior and 
recalcitrant 
> > > for refusing
> > > > >to accept Jesus.
> > > > >	4) Identification of homosexuals as evil.
> > > > >
> > > > >	Just to name a few...
> > > > 
> > > > Have you ever read Bailey's massive works? I doubt you have 
> from 
> > > these 
> > > > claims. I've never seen anything like those spurious remarks. 
I 
> > > further take 
> > > > it from what I've noticed that most 'mainline' theosophists 
> > repugn 
> > > the works 
> > > > of Alice Bailey?
> > > > 
> > > > She does go into granular delineation of the root races, the 
> > > history of the 
> > > > Jews, and the 19 million year history of homosexuality in the 
> > Human 
> > > Race and 
> > > 
> > > This is an important point. I don't recall these details but 
the 
> > > books do mention that this behavior is one that was chosen, 
> learned 
> > > and loved by the Atlantean peoples. I think she makes that 
point 
> as 
> > > well that this was a characteristic of the Atlanteans. I think 
> she 
> > > also says that they are part of the moon chain or will be sent 
to 
> > > another planet for further evolution, those who persist in 
being 
> > > homosexuals. 
> > > 
> > > This will become more germane in the future as more and more 
> people 
> > > reveal that they have been "victims" of "incest" and the 
> attention 
> > > of "gay people" who have turned pedophiles, i.e. catholic 
> priests. 
> > I 
> > > put these words in quotations because it was the NORM in 
> Atlantean 
> > > days. This is what people do not realize. This is the reason 
for 
> > the 
> > > Cruxifixion. He died for these "fucking" sins -- it's that 
simple.
> > > 
> > > Now, if this is true, I don't know if it is then it would not 
be 
> > too 
> > > good for those that will be so marroned on another planet. 
> However, 
> > > could that be their "heaven?" Seems so. Many believe that AIDS 
is 
> > the 
> > > cure for those who chose in the past this evil life and never 
> > unchose 
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > Please read that chapter in the SD in which she talks about the 
> > > religion of Judaism. It is an eyeopener. I stayed up all night 
> > > reading it last year. It is extreme in her view which is 
> absolutely 
> > > ZERO tolerance for the religion. Now, most Jews say that means 
> that 
> > > you are talking about them too. Well, hell most Jews are now 
> > atheists 
> > > and homosexuals so we could not be talking about them per se, 
but 
> > > about the orthodox religion that both B and B call the worse of 
> > evils.
> > > 
> > > I had no idea how strong the sentiment was against the religion 
> of 
> > > Judaism. They say it is a "horrible" religion and has to go. 
Does 
> > > this mean the Jews too? I don't know.
> > > 
> > > It will be decided by HIM on his second coming. 
> > > 
> > > Netemara
> > > 
> > > > methods of alleviation. Interesting that she places 
the "cause" 
> > for 
> > > it on 
> > > > the over-sexed activity of the extant heterosexual humanity 
> when 
> > > that 
> > > > particular subrace was taking form for the 1st time.
> > > > Her remarks re: the Jews compares them to the crest of 
> humanity, 
> > > but that 
> > > > their time has come and gone and assimilation is the 
desirable 
> > > path. She 
> > > > never mentions inferiority, but recalcitrance- do you have a 
> > > problem with 
> > > > that? She does pointedly mention that Jesus will not take a 
> > Jewish 
> > > body 
> > > > again, if/when He reappears as the Christ/Buddha. Would you, 
in 
> > his 
> > > shoes? 
> > > > And she further prophesies a particularized Jewish Messiah....
> > > > 
> > > > regards-
> > > > 
> > > > Ali
> > > > 
> > > > 
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