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Re: Theos-World Mary Magdalene

Mar 20, 2004 07:35 AM
by Ali Hassan




From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Mary Magdalene
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:45:41 -0000

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Ali Hassan" <ananda_hotai@h...>
wrote:
> No, it means the church metaphorically usurps Mary's position.

???

> If you can appreciate the allegorical nature of Jesus curing the
blind,
> perhaps also you can appreciate that the many references Jesus made
to
> bridegroom, brides, bridal chambers were not about carnal marriage
> relations. [Seinfeld sotto voce: not that there's anything wrong
with those]
> Mary as bride of Christ was symbolic of the lost or prodigal soul
having
> returned. In that light, the common notion of her being the
reformed
> prostitute enhances her status, imo....even if she wasn't.

If she was not a prostitute, saying she was means you are departing
from the ancient understanfing. It also seems to me to insult her
memory unnecessarily. Anyway, where ydo you get the stuff you are
saying>
Oh, my. Do you really think her feelings were hurt? Apologize to her for me, next time you see her?
I think Chuck the Heretic was closer to the gist of where I'm going with this.

> > > 61. The Lord said: Blest be he who was before he came
> > > into being. (=Th 19!) For he who is, both was and
> > > shall be. (Rev/Ap 1:8
> >
> >This is a reference to the pre-existence of the soul, which is
> >implied in numerous places in the OT. Origen says ancient scholars
> >were divided on this and that some insisted the OT taught
> >traducianism.
>
> Not really, since what you write is an over-simplification. This
refers more
> to his statement, "before Moses was, I am." It is more an assertion
of the
> Christ/Buddha Universal mind, untrammelled by time and space.

I stand mbty mt oeiginal statement since there is no reason to
believe Buddha is meant by this beatitude or Christ either. The
ancients did discuss the idea of pre-existence, though.
Not referring to personalities- more the Christ/Buddha as Blavatsky implies, a state of consciousness. Very close to your idea of the soul, but not quite.

> > > A mother that kiss her child on the lips means that
> > > she has an erotic relationship with the child?
> >
> >Kissing kids on the mouth is a strange thing to do. Are you
> >referring to LeTourneau?
>
> I assume you have children to make another such presumptous remark?
The
> 'sin' or 'strange' is in your mind.

I have never seena nyone kiss kids mouth to mouth, but only on the
cheek or forehead. Anyway, two adults kissing each other on the
mouth in ancient times indicated thereby the existence of mutual
erotic interest. A fraternal kiss in the first century was
administered on the neck.

Well, you apparently haven't been around then, to have such notions of kissology.

regards-

Ali

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