Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00762)

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In a message dated 03/25/04 12:02:21 AM, ananda_hotai@hotmail.com writes:

>>From: leonmaurer@aol.com
>>Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hitler, Nazism, the Holocaust, Holocaust
>>Denial, Anti-Semitism, and Neo-Nazism
>>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:05:10 EST
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>> See my web site at:
>>http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/solwldcrystposter.ht
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>>and, http://tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics )
>
>I couldn't really get your drift since so many words you use like 
>'synergistic' are catch-words. I think I got a 'unified field theory' out of 
>it, which could be also called the astral field? Which we 'tune in to'
>with the pineal glands? Sorry, maybe I should have printed it out.

Sorry about your inability to follow my "drift" (now, that's a real 
catchword:-). Actually, you may be close, since the unified "astral field" as you put 
it, refers to all the coenergetic and synergistic fields between or within the 
physical and the spiritual monad fields --that includes. among others, the 
lower mental, vital energy, and astral form fields. 

BTW, calling potent explanatory words "catchwords" is a meaningless sign of 
laziness /:^) -- since all one has to do is look up their meaning in a 
dictionary, and interpret it in the context of its usage. "Synergistic" is related to 
Synergy which has a very specific meaning with reference to the "agents" 
(fields) or "forces" that I am talking about.

Maybe, if you are interested in getting a handle on the ABC theory or to 
understand its full scope-- (which is an attempt to fully explain the metaphysical 
science of the SD in the "language of this age" that avoids most of the 
complex Sanskrit and other foreign language jargon used by HPB) -- you might try 
searching through the archives of this forum, bn-study, as well as the various 
scientific forums studying consciousness (during the past ten years)... You'll 
see that, beside explaining the actual mechanisms of the perceptive awareness 
of consciousness or spirit, it also includes the direct relationship of the 
deductive metaphysical science in the SD with the cutting edge physics of 
today's inductive physical science. Thus, bringing theosophy up to date with 
relation to today's level of general, as well as sophisticated scientific and 
technical knowledge. 

Studying the fundamental basis of primal field involution and fractal 
generation of the first, second and third logos, along with their relationships with 
the zero-laya points out of which they emanate -- can be very helpful as an 
underlying visualization while trying to delve deeper into the subsequent 
metaphysics and evolutionary processes formalized, or "formularized" if one wills, 
in the book of Dzyan, and their further elucidation in the Secret Doctrine. 

Following the laws of analogy and correspondence the spherical (but actually 
egg shaped) forms of those involved fractal fields have a direct relationship 
to the Hierarchy of Dhyan Chohans, as well as to the subordinate nature of the 
electrical forces of Fohat (the fathering force of all subsequent 
transformations of cosmic energy) -- not to mention the relationships between the 
different dimensions of space that our seven fold, and "coadunate but not 
consubstantial" natures are located on. The knowledge of which will allow us to 
intuitively recognize the hidden "ladders" between them that one can easily climb. 
This is deep stuff, and can go much deeper for the truly dedicated and intuitive 
seeker... But, not the cup of tea for everyone, I realize. Once started on 
this path, there's no turning back (unless one want's to lose all that had been 
gained previously). Opportunities missed are opportunities lost. However, 
each one of us must find the path that suits them individually. So, if you (or 
anyone else on this forum) have any particular questions about this Jnana 
yoga path that merges synergistically with the Rajah yogic path, that brings the 
creative powers of spirit together with the receptive powers of matter, I 
would be happy to try to answer them helpfully, as best I can according to each 
individual level of understanding. 

>>Of course, you can take all of what follows as a figment of my imagination
>>(which I won't affirm or deny:-) But, as a long time student of the Secret
>>Doctrine, as well as having thoroughly examined all of HPB's writings and 
>>gotten to know his/her inner nature pretty well, I had the distinct 
impression
>>that I was receiving the scientific information, if not the story lines, 
directly
>>from the same source of whomever, wherever or whatever gave HPB her 
>>scientific insight and foresight.

>When you mention the Upanishad definition of the 'place of ego' in the
>pineal gland being a thumb-tip size, it reminds me of when I was a child.
>Practically whenever I was ill, my awareness would shrink down to that
>perspective- I would withdraw from body-consciousness, and my own body
>looked huge, the room was a gulf. I didn't feel different, no wiser, but I 
>knew it was a different pov. Scary at first, like I'd keep going to the
>nothing. But I didn't.

Actually, the place of the "higher ego" is in the heart, not in the pineal -- 
which is the visual door to that zero-point center of the soul through its 
reflection in the mind. That's why to look inward is called, to "reflect on 
one's true nature," and why we also can say that "the eyes are the windows of the 
soul" and that "the mind is the mirror of both the 'soul' (the real 
experiencer) and the 'self'" (the true observer). There's much more to this if we bring 
the will into it. (But that's another story for another day.;-) 

When I was a child (actually an infant around 2-3 years old) I experienced a 
similar effect when each element of the geometric wallpaper pattern around my 
bed began to spin into a spiral vortex that caused me to feel my body would 
similarly shrink down and might fall into its infinitesimally small center... At 
which point, I thought I could possibly wink out of existence if I kept on 
staring at it too long. This concept also being quite scary, I managed to 
escape (after several tries to stop looking at it) by spinning the vortex in the 
opposite direction and imagining I was looking at it from the inside out -- 
which spun me back to the world of our normal experience. Afterward I enjoyed 
looking at spirals which always managed to focus my mind and trigger my 
imagination. 

Perhaps, this early training (through the inner Master, I suppose) was what 
gave me the ability later to see the entire universe compressed down into a 
zero-point -- which I could look into and look out from, simultaneously. I 
suppose this was my first initiation into the mystery of opposites and how to 
control them -- or avoid them by going in between their illusory or Mayavic rays of 
substantiality... (The big joke played of us by the uncontrolled mind. :-) 

Funnily, this initial transcendent experience was my first proof that 
convinced me that I was here before I was born. Later, I was able to lose my fear of 
that emptiness, and even managed to utilize that visualization to retrogress 
back to the moment of conception and the experience of being a zygote... And 
then, managed to travel back to the present and observe its progressive stages 
of development. This proved to me that my self or observing consciousness was 
separate from my body. Even later, when I correlated this retrogressive 
process with the level of inherent talents I had in this life, and related them to 
learning's in past lives that corresponded with those historical figures of 
comparable talents I intuitively felt akin to -- I found additional intuitive 
proof of my past existence's (although not specific personalities) during their 
periods of time and place. 

>>Since I always had a particular feeling of rapport with her soul nature
>>whenever I read anything she wrote, I had a strange feeling, accompanied
>>by a sense of wonder, that she was talking 
>>directly to me... Especially, when I read,
>>or actually chanted, her words with inflectional emphasis (as if I were 
>>singing it operatically) -- which, btw, is a helpful oral teaching 
technique 
>>that both my alchemist/kabbalist father as well as HPB taught me for 
>>purposes of studying esoteric occult material. I must say also, that by 
>>doing this, I may have
>>inadvertently opened some doors for HPB to "walk in," so to speak -- by
>>unknowingly using some intuitive techniques related to "affinities,"
>>"correlation's," and "assimilation's" pointed to by HPB (and also confirmed
>>by Ruth Montgomery, Alice Bailey, Carlos Castenada, 
>>Jane Roberts, among others).
>
>I'd differentiate between those folks. I'd definitely steer clear of Jane
>Roberts, and probably Ruth Montgomery too, if I could remember her schtick.
>Castaneda was another case altogether, that the jury is still out, in my
>mind on- Bailey I would put in a 'legitimate' casting, although some of the 
>bigoted quotes she is alleged to have made do bother me about her. They
>bother me.
>
>The Jane Roberts type and all she inspired were clearly, imo, exactly the
>sort of low-level medium that HPB abhorred. Here again, all you have to do 
>is look at one of her later book covers to see some strange effects. She
>died pretty wretchedly, no? Same with the Lighthouse Lady, Clare Prophet.
> Who was she channelling, ugh? Alzheimers now, is it?

Regardless of their personal faults and psychic practices, there are gems of 
truth in the writings of each of these "channelers" if you can dig them out, 
and separate them from all the surrounding gobbledygook. The trick, besides 
using one's intuition (if available:) -- is to test everything they say against 
the three fundamental principles (taken together), and cull out whatever 
positive new ideas, new twists, or further subtleties they add to the synthesis of 
all the more legitimate teachers such as HPB, WQJ, the Masters, and all the 
other ancient mystics and philosophers they point us to, such as, Pythagorus, 
Hermes, Plato, Buddha, Lao Tse, etc. I'm sure there were many flaws in the 
personalities of those people, as well as peccadilloes we never have heard about -- 
that had nothing to due with the quality of their teachings.

Therefore, I do not look at the personalities of the writers or their own 
personal karma, when I dig into their writing to separate the metaphysical wheat 
from the chaff (although I do consider their personal biases and prejudices 
with relation to what they are teaching) -- e.g. Jane Robert's Seth spoke many 
occult truths from a unique and different point of view that helped illuminate 
many of the things HPB said in the Secret Doctrine (that she learned or 
transcribed telepathically from M and KH, while also, sometimes, adding her own 
personal prejudices that have to be carefully considered and possibly discounted). 
The same goes for all the other so called "channelers" (Castenada is another 
story, since he was reporting his own experiences under the guidance of a 
living teacher) ... That is, if we can set aside our own prejudices or mental 
conditioning, and separate the metaphysical statements of their so called 
"descended Master" from their own personality foibles and mental or religious 
hang-ups, prejudices, wrong views, etc. -- which inadvertently may twist their 
Master's teachings into interpretations that they wish to believe, or serves a 
particular purpose directed toward fulfilling their own private agendas. 

>>For the benefit of serious students who might be reading this -- the 
resulting 
>>mantras (due to such chanting) subliminally induces certain bodily mudras, 
>>and mental mandala visualizations -- that are powerful means for focussing
>>the mind. This, along with the will to know, leads to a strong memory of 
the
>>visualizations, as well as a fuller comprehension of their deeper meanings.
>> (Some of the automatic writing and drawing of margin notes in books may 
>>also be a product of such methods of study.)
>
>Everything is a mantra and has power of meaning, but the old languages
>have divine power within the very syntax as well.

That's not entirely true. Not everything is a mantra. Only certain 
meaningful words or sounds as they are spoken or chanted are mantras. Thus, mantras, 
as I used the term, are particular expressions or words, phrases and 
sentences, in any language, that -- due to their vibrational patterns when spoken, and 
their usage in syntax as well as related to their context -- invoke images on 
higher mental planes that generate deeper understandings, and sometimes actual 
mental changes leading to physical changes in both brain and body. 

HPB used such mantra's many times in her writings by means of word, phrase 
and punctuation emphasis along with metre (all related either to sounds, colors 
and/or diagrammatical symbols). 

Some old languages, of course, that have different meanings due to their 
chanted inflection, as well as symbolic pictorial alphabets, such as Sanskrit, 
Hebrew, Egyptian, Chinese, Arabic, etc., can much easier form these mantric image 
transformations. Bastard languages like English, German, Italian, French, Sp
anish, etc., are an entirely different story, and require tricks of 
punctuation, word combination, and word emphasis, along with genderizations and 
placement of vowels of different inflection to convey different or more subtle 
meanings (although never reaching the subtleties of the "root" languages).

I don't know what you mean by "divine power" -- unless it's the power or 
creative force that emanates from the zero-point center of the primal source -- 
which is everywhere. For example, the force that regenerates our body's life 
energy every night during sleep... Or, the creative power of the true artist... 
Or, the power behind the projective phenomena and the inner "seeing" of the 
psychic. All of which loses it's mysticism when we understand that it's the 
power of the controlled will that stands side by side with all points of 
individual consciousness throughout nature -- that can be invoked by each of us from 
our own zero-point center of self awareness, and thus, act willfully on all 
levels of consciousness... Something, however, that the Masters are reluctant to 
talk about -- since such power can be harmfully misused by the untrustworthy 
Chela who can dig out from them, by whatever means, all the secret method of 
invoking, projecting, and controlling such Godlike or divine power. 

Best wishes,

Leon


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