Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00078)

 ??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups christinaleestemaker 
<christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:

> ?Hallo Steve,
> Dutch is a Latin mixed language.As French is.

I must be missing something. Dutch appears to be Germanic to me. I 
assume you mean it is syntactically Latin. (For the benefit of the 
linguistically uninitiated, German is NOT similar to Latin 
syntactically. The turned around backwards verbs which all appear at 
the end of the sentence drove me insane when I was in college. I 
never recovered and still use insanity as a defence when it serves my 
purposes.)

??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups walkinsnotwelcome <zolarczakl@n...> 
wrote:

> Steve, who in the world is HOB? Did this entity say somewhere 
that 
> Kuthumi died, or otherwise vanished, in 1897?

HOB is how I write HPB when my finger slops. One of her prophecies 
was that a 5000 year cycle would come to an end in 1897 and that the 
assistance from the GWB would come to an end. A. Cleather believed 
this was a prediction of her own death, but she did not live long 
enough to fulfill it, dying instead in 1891. According to her 
prediction, the TS would have had NO contact with the GWB until 1975, 
which does away with cracpots like WC Leadbeater and Alice Bailey. 
You can either believe HPB/HOB or you can believe Leadbeater & Bailey.

As for KH, when Nicolas Roerich was in Tibet in the 20s, he was told 
KH had died and that the "Kauthumpas" (men of Koot Hoomi) had 
disbanded. CC Massey uncovered some evidence that the real identity 
of KH may have been Nisi Kanta Chattopadhyana, who was a member of 
the TS. The evidence is not totally satisfactory because of efforts 
to disguise the real world identity of KH with an assortnent of red 
herrings (Blavatsky herself said KH was a pseudonym and not a real 
name), but if KH was NKC he died in 1910. That fits in with what NR 
said. Also if KH was NKC it is likely he was a man and not a deity. 
The GWB was a society of mystics and scholars and not an ethereal 
assemblage on Mount Olympus. (Or a certain other mount well known in 
Hindu myth, the name of which escapes me at the moment.)

Religious theosophists of the Fundametalist stripe go into 
unreasoning rages when anyone suggests that the identities of these 
characters might be provisionally determinable or that the GWB was 
anything less than transcendental, so you are treading on dangerous 
ground.

Chech out fhe following on that point:

??? In theos?talk@yahoogroups.com, "kpauljohnson" 
<kpauljohnson@y...> wrote:

> Non?theosophists had no trouble at all understanding my 
> position (real Masters, mythologized portrayals) and the 
first half?
> dozen or so Theosophical reviewers understood it. At some 
point, > the real Theosophist?of?many?years Paul Johnson got 
completely 
> displaced by a straw man thanks to a handful of antagonistic 
> Theosophists and there was not a damn thing I could do about 
it. 
> Except move on to write about a subject not cursed by 
decades of 
> antagonism.
>
> Straw Man Paul