Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00246)

In a message dated 04/06/04 4:02:25 PM, netemara888@yahoo.com writes:

>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
>
>> Be nice if she revealed something of her knowledge of occultism 
>> rather than her ego. :-)
>> So far you are the third one to claim a possible comeback or 
>> kinship with the Old Lady. Whom do we believe? Or do we put you all in 
>> the same catagory as we take all the returning Jesus Christ claims? <;-)>
>> 
>> Leonardo
>> 
>
>They are one and the same. Besides I have pictures and diaries that 
>are too numerous to publish online. That's really why I am changing 
>my life and moving to another locale where I can do the next phase. 
>But they nor I need anyone's consent or approval for a claim. 

Well, in Business they say, "it's all location, location, location." So, I 
suppose that also goes for what you have in mind for the next "phase." 
(Whatever it is -- although I hope its not trying to form a new bigoted religion that 
divides theosophy or the world even further than they are now. :-) 

>In science it is the task of the nonbeliever to disprove, not the 
>claimants to prove but to present evidence and "proofs."

Well, I don't think that Madame Blavatsky, had any trouble pulling off a few 
tricks and offering some really powerful teachings, to "prove" to everyone she 
was the true mouthpiece of the Masters, and an Adept herself. 

>That is the reason I spend time volleying with people here. I am 
>really just bidding my time, because there is no onus to do anything 
>different. I have the writings to prove my claim. You nor anyone else 
>has to believe it, call me names, or take time to disprove what? 
>Rebirth? You would not really know where to start now would you?
>

Could very well be that I might. (But, that's for me to know and you to find 
out. :-) But, that aside, I'm sure that a few theosophical students in this 
forum involved with Blavatsky's teachings and her mission would certainly be 
interested in seeing some of those writings... Or, at least, hearing some wise 
words, or a new message that would sound somewhat like what the real HPB might 
say, or that would be comparable to what was written when she (as you see 
her) was here. While the body might be different, I'm sure the mind, wisdom, 
ideas and motivations would be quite the same... And, hopefully, with the link to 
the Masters still unbroken. 

That could be sufficient evidence to convince some of Blavatsky's devoted 
disciples that you are whom you say you are. Unfortunately, most of your 
writings and prejudicial remarks, to this forum at least, belie that. (Although 
"HPB," to the real students of theosophy, symbolizes the Masters behind Madame 
Blavatsky -- who was only the "messenger" for them and no big deal in her own 
personal being, and who could very well have said and done some stupid things the 
last time she was here, as well as now. :-) 

But, then, if the soul of HPB did come back, she could just as well be 
interested in doing something else, or merely watching what some of her friends and 
followers might be doing. Or, she could just be fishing around to find the 
best place and people to do whatever new work she had in mind. So, to give you 
the benefit of the doubt, why not you? (But, I'm afraid, you might not find 
too many believers in this forum of mavericks, heretics and iconoclasts, no 
matter what evidence you might come up with.:-) BTW, speaking for myself, I think 
I've already met the spirit of HPB in a body -- but he died some years ago 
after teaching me what I had to know and helping edit the Science and Theosophy 
section of a recent biography of HPB. 

In any event, you are right that what you believe in your own mind is your 
truth. And who are we to question it? Some of my friends say they are the 
reincarnated Jesus, or other descended Adepts and Masters, and they, too, have 
trouble getting people to believe it. Although, one of them has managed to 
convince a number of highly intelligent people that he might be. And, I've talked 
with others who could very well be -- although they make no such personal 
claims. On the whole, though, to be fair, most of the claimants are quite 
delusional -- since they only reflect what they read in the Bible or other scriptures, 
and have no theosophical, philosophical or scientific thoughts or ideas of 
their own. (Blind faith, or bigoted religious belief, of course, is another 
matter entirely.) 

So, good luck (or should I say, karma) with the new life you are planning. 
And, I hope the people you may find in your new location are more receptive to 
your reincarnation claims, let alone your ideas and teaching. However, if 
they are truly in the spirit of HPB's theosophical teachings, may your new 
efforts be both worthwhile and successful. But, if not, I'm sure the karma that 
results will be your just deserves. 

Leonardo Hermes Mason (Maurer)
[Who could very well be a reincarnation of Tut-Moses III, the last Egyptian 
Mason-Adept. BTW, one of my presumedly descended Adept friends gave me a gift 
of the golden "Seal of Thoth" originally made and carried by Tut-Moses I -- 
which I wear around my neck as he did -- if that's any proof? :-)] 
(Unfortunately, Tut-Moses III was exiled before he could become the Pharaoh, and he ended 
up saving some of those former Egyptian slaves you appear to have no use for.)
</:-)> 

Have a happy Easter and Passover.

>Netemara