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Re: Praying and meditating at tombs...

Apr 09, 2004 03:11 AM
by christinaleestemaker


-Hallo Morten,
So you can see in your reply
There is a lot to do A lot to make life perfect for the whole world!
To turn violence into agressive for the wellfare, to use that energy 
or force to fight for peace.
In stead of to use it against.but..... And there we go on, as long 
as there is a community of interest in for example the governments, 
which give the models for the countrymen... we far away of peace.

We as rational Creaturs have not to neclect The higher for the lower.
( but that you will know yet).


For this I must think on the sign of Pythagoras the Y
This Y is standing for the necessary of the correct choices in all 
cases and to safe the natural balance of things through the + and -
always in balance= equal and in difference to combine.

I reply :

Through the rightousness in the heart, 
the character is made more beautiful.
With the beauty of character harmony is established in the home.
When harmony is in each home,
order is established in the Nation.
When there is order in the Nation,
PEACE is established in the World.

So may wordlywisdom,love and the inner light help us on the way of 
life.

Christina

P.S. I heared another story of a theosophist; in his holidays he 
sleeps one night on an althar in a church.

"From that time they close the churches"


-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo Christina and all,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> Please do not misunderstand me.
> I think we should cull the good we find in each.
> 
> Honestly.
> I do find Besants activities as being mostly on the positive side.
> And my remarks about Krishnamurti and Besant and her political 
activities
> were meant for meditation and not
> emotional reactions.
> I find this issue of importance to the theosophical cause.
> Some of the readers will problably remember
> some of Blavatsky's words on politics.
> Try for instance this one:
> Letter I -- 1888
> Second Annual Convention -- April 22-23 - by Blavatsky
> "I am confident that, when the real nature of Theosophy is 
understood, the
> prejudice against it, now so unfortunately prevalent, will die out.
> Theosophists are of necessity the friends of all movements in the 
world,
> whether intellectual or simply practical, for the amelioration of 
the
> condition of mankind. We are the friends of all those who fight 
against
> drunkenness, against cruelty to animals, against injustice to 
women, against
> corruption in society or in government, although we do not meddle in
> politics."
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/hpb-am/hpb-am1.htm
> 
> Depending on how you read and understand this you react.
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:11 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Praying and meditating at tombs...
> 
> 
> > -Hallo morten. Well Krishnamurti is another story, somebody must
> > bring the teachings as a real servant.
> > What Annie Besant did in politics just in her time;
> > to fight for better situations in factories and other kind of work
> > reformering.
> > In that way she changed much for the better of the common 
people.For
> > the children working in matchstick factories and so on.
> > What have you done?
> > Except writing much MAYA round the facts?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> > theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > > Hmm...Quite Interesting what Besant did in politics...
> > > compared with her Krishnamurti activities.
> > >
> > >
> > > M. Sufilight...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:29 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Re: Praying and meditating at tombs...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hallo Morten,
> > > > Yes the one of Annie Besant.
> > > > What gives me a very well & strong feeling.
> > > > Christina
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" 
<global-
> > > > theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Hallo all of you,
> > > > >
> > > > > My views are:
> > > > >
> > > > > I told a story by a friend some days ago.
> > > > > He is an eager student of Gurdjieff and sufism in general.
> > > > >
> > > > > His interest in Gurdjieff was so, that he decided to sleep 
on
> > his
> > > > tomb.
> > > > > He told me, that this was an extreme expereicne, and that he
> > had
> > > > quite a spiritual revelation while doing it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems, that this issue of praying at tombs is not new in 
the
> > > > Middle East.
> > > > > I wonder if there has been said anything about this by any 
of
> > the
> > > > major theosophical writers ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Has any of you ever tried to stay at Blavatsky's tomb for a
> > long
> > > > time ?
> > > > > And perhaps tried to stay over night ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mulla Nasrudin also have a tomb.
> > > > > ...smile...
> > > > >
> > > > > from
> > > > > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




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