Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00318)

Netemara,

I don't have any opinion about your own work, claims or powers. I'm sure if 
they are real I will experience their reality when the time is ripe and when 
you are ready to expose them. Although I am still interested in anything you 
may have written or intend to write about them. 

As for Tut-Moses III... The one you had a vision of. He is not the same one 
I was talking about. My Tut-Moses III was not named yet with the appellation 
Tut or Thut (representing him as a direct incarnation of the Master Thoth or 
Hermes) nor was he given the number III following his name... Since he lost his 
chance to become the next Pharaoh when he killed one of Tut-Moses II's guards 
or retainers for committing an unconscionable act of mistreating a slave. 

The one you call Tut-Moses III was the bastard son of his Mother's sister who 
became Pharaoh after the exiled Moses's Mother died (after becoming Pharaoh 
herself when her father, Tut-Moses II died). It's a complex story, since the 
incompletely named Moses who came through my father, his father's father and 
all the seventh sons of a seventh son of Thoth since the beginning of the fifth 
sub race of the fifth root race -- as was all those that were named "Tut 
Moses" in the ancient Egyptian line of Thoth/Hermes, the Messenger (which goes all 
the way back to Atlantis). BTW, the name Mose or Moses, from the Greek, 
means, "drawn from the water" -- and from the Egyptian means, "born of the gods." 
("water" and "gods" being synonymous in esoteric symbology.)

Therefore, I do not claim the illegitimate Tut-Moses III as my ancestor, but 
only the one who should have gotten that name legitimately -- since that Moses 
was trained by his grandfather, Tut moses II to be the next Pharoah or divine 
incarnation of Thoth ever since he was a foundling baby. After his Exile, 
when he engineered the release of the slaves that Tutmoses III was now 
mistreating -- by overcoming this evil Pharoah's magic, through the wisdom he had of 
the forces of nature, and led them out of Egypt -- he became the Moses we know 
of in the Bible who, supposedly, spoke directly to God, and could use his early 
training as the "mason of masons," to carve the commandments of God in stone 
overnight... Something, all real Tut-Moses' descendants, or "incarnations" as 
you put it, know how to do -- as my "father in Heaven" Tut-Moses X or Moses 
a.k.a. Murray Maurer (Mason) taught me to do when I was seven years old. I have 
also met several other direct descendents on the same line (but not all in my 
physical Family) whom I can recognize instantly by what the say, what they 
do, their ancient Hebrew family names, or what their eyes say when I look into 
them. Incidentally, from a theosophical occult metaphysical point of view, 
reincarnation is not at all the simple linear process that many might think. The 
zero-point which is everywhere and which is the center of each self, can be 
merged into each other along with all their skandas incorporated in their 
akashic shells or spinergy's. But that may be too deep to go into here. 

I tell you all this (since you claim the Pharoah who illegitimately took the 
name of Tut-moses III as your past life) -- in order for you to think twice 
about whether your visions are coming to you, as HPB warned that they could, 
from the disguised line of the dark dugpas, or directly from the line of the 
light brotherhood of Thoth/Hermes that was HPB's teacher (and mine). If that is 
the case, then I understand why you have such an antipathy for ALL the Jews, 
any of whom might be descended through the legitimate Tut-Moses line. That's 
too bad, since this one has no antipathy for you -- although your Tut Moses III 
is another story, because he tried to catch up with my ancestor and kill him 
when Moses ran off with his evil bastard cousin's slaves. :-)

in any event, I hope you take everything I said above with a grain of salt, 
and dig within your soul, if you really have the power, and find out for 
yourself who you really are, and maybe, who I am -- and why our karma brought us 
together to thrash all this out. :-) 

Leonardo 


In a message dated 04/08/04 12:22:42 PM, netemara888@yahoo.com writes:

>Leon,
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>Thank you for your thoughtful post. 
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>Yeah and nay. I ask "to act as if" and see what happens. My task is 
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>really to write about reincarnation and the laws of rebirth. I have 
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>moved people from one body to the other and have watched not only my 
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>rebirths but that of others. This is what is different, this is my 
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>message. That I know of others and not just my own lives and have 
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>written about it is the difference.
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>My first attempt at writing was outlining the etheric body and the 
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>way that the nadis flow and those experiences. I have to rewrite it. 
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>I will change my location but more importantly I am also trying to 
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>at least work part time so that I can spend the rest of the time 
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>writing. 
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>My other task is to teach meditation and the "theory" of Sant Mat. I 
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>can teach people to leave their bodies. And if there is a nuclear 
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>holocaust that might come in handy. But aside from that there is the 
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>spiritual side. So much of what I have to say is in the experiential 
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>realm. In some ways it demands personal training and teaching. 
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>If I were crazy, which my students call me every day, I would not be 
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>here talking to you or others. I also plan to return to academia and 
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>get another advanced degree in something or other.
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>Finally, Tut Moses III was revealed to me in a vision. I had never 
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>heard of this person. I looked his name up as soon as his life was 
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>shown to me. I saw it and his life and began to research it. He was 
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>victorious in the battle of Megiddo. He took over from his aunt who 
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>was the pharoah. He did rise to power as far as I know. I have his 
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>name on a ruler listing him as a pharoah that I bought at Harvard. I 
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>have books on his life. THere was an exhibit here in my home town 
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>all about him and his reign. I claim him too.
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>But don't forget why shouldn't people claim connections to famous, 
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>people, I use that word loosely? We are all connected to someone at 
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>sometime. Think of the people who were around these people? 
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>I don't think everyone was completely understanding what HPB or AAB 
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>wrote when first given out. You may not see wisdom in what I do 
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>because it is not the whole picture. I have restraints at this time. 
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>It is a great deal of energy which I will release. Remember we are 
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>workers with energies and forces. That is something that I can also 
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>show proof for. 
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>Energy is the name of the game.
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>Peace 
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>Netemara