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Re: Theos-World To Dallas, Jerry & other Theosophists: HPB gives "four mutually contradictory..

Oct 15, 2004 01:51 AM
by Morten N. Olesen


Hallo all,

My views are:

a) It is wellknown that Blavatsky many times told
people not to read using the - method of the dead-letter.
If this is true, the readers might look upon her letters in a new light.

b) Another issue is that - from what I read in the below - the buddhist at Ceylon might have been her Master Morya, because a Master are - as far as theosophical knowledge goes - in fact capeable of existing in more than one physical body at the same time.

c) Also this. An initiate like Blavatsky are not always revealing the whole truth. One reason for this is that revealing the truth is not always what is most helpful to the Seekers or the audience, which is being addressed, - either by mail or verbally.
What the initiate is interested in is the spiritual impact a short story can have on a group of people, - say for instance scholars - who discuss her letters some hundred years later.

d) Another issue is that second hand writings are not always that reliable. They may contain faults.



from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...




----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@y...>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:17 AM
Subject: Theos-World To Dallas, Jerry & other Theosophists: HPB gives "four mutually contradictory..



To Dallas, Jerry & other Theosophists:
HPB gives "four mutually contradictory versions"
about her Master according to Paul Johnson

I hope that some Theosophists as well as
other readers on this list will comment and give
their observations on what Johnson wrote about this subject.

Below I give 2 extracts from Johnson: an
extract from THE MASTERS REVEALED and an
extract from Johnson's GNAT article.


EXTRACT ONE

In THE MASTERS REVEALED p. 41, Paul Johnson wrote:

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HPB told at least four distinct versions of
her acquaintance with the Master she met
in her youth in London. In *Caves and
Jungles of Hindustan* he is "Gulab-Singh,"
the Hindu ruler of a small Central Indian
state. According to this version, her first
contact with him after their London meeting
was through a letter he sent her in New York
over twenty years later. [15] The most frequently
repeated story was that M. was a Buddhist
living in Tibet where she studied with him
for a long period in the late 1860s. But
in yet another variation, she wrote to Prince
Dondukov-Korsakov that her first contact with
him after their London meeting was a letter
he sent her in Odessa many years later, directing
her to go to India. In this version, she never
once saw the Master although he directed her
itinerary by mail for more than two years. They were reunited
at last in Yokahama, Japan, where he had summoned her from New
York. [16] Finally, HPB wrote to her Aunt Nadyezhda that her Master
was a Nepalese Buddhist living in Ceylon, with whom she had
renewed acquaintance via a letter he wrote her in New York. [17]
With four mutually contradictory versions of the same
character, all that can be concluded is that most if not all of
HPB's stories about him were false.

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Footnotes to the above:

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[15] H.P. Blavatsky, Caves and Jungles of Hindostan, pp. 272-73.

[16] H.P. Blavatsky, HPB Speaks, vol. 2, pp. 20-23.

[17] Ibid, vol. 1, pp. 220-22.

[Note by DC: Also compare HPB's 1877 letter to her aunt:
"Sahib has been known to me for more than twenty-five
years; he came to London....Since then I have not seen
him, until I received a letter from him...three years ago..."
See Letters of H.P. Blavatsky, Vol. I, starting at
the bottom of p. 352 and continuing on p. 353.]
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EXTRACT TWO

Johnson in his GNAT reply to my critique added the
following comment to his earlier statements quoted above:

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It would be more accurate to say that the conflicting
Morya stories cannot be true *and* about the same person,
although they may contain true bits and pieces about several.
But Mr. Caldwell, Dr. Algeo and other Theosophical critics seem
quite unwilling to face the obvious and undeniable truth
revealed by the above passage. Either HPB manufactured most of
these stories about Morya, allegedly her personal Master, out
of whole cloth, or she combined stories about several different
prototypes in different versions to different people.

-----------------------------------------------------

Daniel
http://blavatskystudycenter.org








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