Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00269)

Oct 15 2004

Dear Lenny:

Many thanks very clear.

I agree we will have to wait and see. But can we offer points to help this
progress, and where place them?

Tesla / Edison - I agree with your view, it was mine also and am glad to
have it confirmed. 


Many thanks


Dallas
 

-----Original Message-----
From: leonmaurer@a... [mailto:leonmaurer@a...] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:21 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: Theos-World Re: QUANTUM and EVOLUTION ?


Dear Dallas,

The only comments I might have is that the research done in Russia appears
to 
be bringing us close to a final scientific proof of the unity of nature and 
the linkages between the various fields of consciousness with the all 
encompassing universal memory of the Akasha -- as described in theosophy,
and more or less scientifically presented in my ABC holographic fractal
field theory linking consciousness, mind, and body on all levels of
universal involution and evolution.

It appears that their work on the DNA wave computer concept coupled with the

multidimensional field theories of Superstring/M-branes (all framed within
my 
ABC theory) may be the final "new scientific paradigm" to serve as the
bridge 
needed to link these metaphysical theories of theosophy, that use deduction 
from principles to arrive at the particulars, with the inductive theories of

physics (quantum, relativity, etc.) that can only reductively approach the 
ultimate reality as close as the smallest particle they can measure with
their 
physical instruments. These new theories fill in the gap between their
"quanta" 
and the zero-point of primal space, and will ultimately prove the analogous
and 
corresponding unity of all things with the Absolute, as well as their 
holographic and coenergetic interrelationships with each other on all levels
of 
consciousness.

As it is, these new findings have already begun to shake up the scientific 
establishment, and change some of their fundamental beliefs... Although,
there 
are still many of them struggling to justify their old reductive
materialism. 
Much like the Newtonian classicists fought against the theory of relativity
and 
the unity of matter and energy -- that Einstein, apparently, pulled straight

out of the SD. (Not to denigrate his brilliance in devising the complex 
mathematics that justified and proved it. :-)

All this is the beginning of the inevitability that all the physiological 
biochemical-physical sciences and theosophical metaphysics will meet on a
common ground in this century, as predicted by HPB.  

All we need do now is wait and see, as well as do the best we can to point 
out that connection in the mass media (the "language of this age") -- so
that 
all people will eventually believe it in both their hearts and minds, and
begin 
to act accordingly.

As for Edison with respect to Tesla, I think Edison was much overrated, and 
that their relationship was much like that of a practical engineer of great 
cleverness (and questionable ethics) versus a true visionary theoretical 
genius/scientist/idealist of much greater brilliance of mind. Tesla was
also much more of a true "theosophist" of high moral and ethical character
than Edison was. 
 

Edison and his close friend Ford were both exploiters and racists (as were 
those "robber barons" who financed them). Judging by their actions, in
spite of 
their supposed membership in the TS, I think they were theosophists in name 
only, and were intellectually interested only in black magic mysticism and 
psychic phenomena -- that was much in vogue among the wealthy cocktail party

dilettantes of their time. 

In my view (speaking as both an engineer/scientist as well as a theosophist)

Edison was an exploitative entrepreneur who picked the brains of those much 
more brilliant than himself (not to mention continually trying to discredit 
them) -- while Tesla was a true visionary and brilliant
scientist/philosopher, of 
great ethics and honor, who was blind-sided by his more pragmatic (and 
greedy) colleagues and patrons, all of whom ripped off and denigrated
everything he ever accomplished and, in the process, drove him into poverty
and obscurity until his untimely death. Read about it and weep. 
http://flyingmoose.org/truthfic/tesla.htm

Best wishes,

Lenny   


In a message dated 10/11/04 8:34:10 AM, dalval14@e... writes:

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>Dear Lenny
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>Please look at this and see if you can comment?
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>See his notes at the bottom please (I'll bring them forward)
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>Interesting
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>NOTES by John
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: samblo@c... [mailto:samblo@c...] 
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:12 PM
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Why is Theosophy better than religions or
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>Dallas,
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>>>In the THEOSOPHICAL literature it speaks of the mind, needing a concept
>or a procedure, sends out "a finger of thought" and, if powerful enough, it
>impinges on an answer in the universal astral light (the record of all
>events and things) and can bring it back. I wonder. It must have
something
>to do with the character and predisposition of the person, as well as Karma
>in general. In the case of Edison so many inventions and developments
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>to me the implications of their findings are potentially huge. 
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>If the process they describe involving the Quantum Non-Local Matrix is
>indeed a reality then it turns Darwin's adaptive evolution on it's head
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>Gariaev and his team describe the Quantum Non-Local Matrix as outside of
our
>time and space dimension yet at the same time inseparable and most intimate
>to all living form and in inseparable instantaneous communication with the
>DNA and Cells of life forms.
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>They postulate the Non-Local Matrix contains the sum of all past, present
>and future forms in infinite potentia and that adaptation is actually the
>accessing back and forth for the purpose of locating solutions presented
>in our dimension and reality when adaptation is a "necessity of survival"
>or when need for optimization is needed. 
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>This involves one of the most beautiful, l profound expression in Nature.
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>How does a Hummingbird adaptively develop a beak expressly shaped to a
>unique genus of flower that others may not access for food and nectar?
>How does a flower grow a bloom adaptively to attract selectively only
certain
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>The Gariaev Research explains the interface between the Quantum Non-Local
>Matrix and ourselves and the life forms on Earth. 
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>And reading their papers one sees they make mention that beyond the
>Non-Local Matrix is, they believe by indication, a "Consciousness" that
>mediates it all and is senior to even the Quantum Non-Local Matrix. 
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>This may qualify as a circumstance of which you quote Blavatsky in your
>post. Here Gariaev as well as others today are converging upon a cognitive
>understanding based upon Science itself and new Discovery opening the veil
>between the material, subtle, and beyond. 
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>There are several items connected to this general topic. 
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>One is Jacques Benveniste, formerly Head of Research for France's Medical
>Institute and his discovery of "Memory of water," high dilution phenomena.
>There is also the "Phantom DNA" discovery. 
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>All rely upon the Quantum Field Model Form expressing as Magnetic
>analytically geometrized information of a senior order that is the
substrate
>intimate to the physically present specimen and which remains after all
>presence of the physical counterpart has been removed. 
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>In the case of disease this is significant if further validation convinces
>Science at large, for removing the physical traces of the disease while the
>Quantum Field Model Form remains within the body complete and whole
>containing the 
>information that can express and regenerate the disease anew in spite of
>the best efforts of current Medical Art. I think this is another facet of 
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>organizing criticality that is new being discovered.
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>As to Thomas Edision, unfortunately, I Have the Belgrade Edition of the
>Patents, lectures of Nicola Tesla and several other works on Tesla. 
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>Tesla saved Edison's buns and Edison horridly cheated Tesla. 
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>Tesla, before he even came to America had invented the long distance relay
>and Yugoslavia used it to become the first nation with long distance
>service. 
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>Tesla invented A.C. electrical technology which quickly overwhelmed
>Edision's faulted D.C. system. when I look at our culture of today Tesla
>is the man that was entirely shorted (overlooked) by (his) the peers.
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>Oct 11 2004
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>Dear John:
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>Most interesting research.  
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>Evidently one might say that there is a need for some direction towards
>the existence of 
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>1 The Universal urge and program for the development of
>intelligence in all departments of nature.
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>2 The astral plane and models thereon which shape the gradual
>development of forms.
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>3 Our atomic and sub-atomic developments seem to be reaching into
>the astral fields.  
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>Certainly at the level of sub-atomics we are dealing more with forces and
>CENTERS OF FORCE than anything else. But what stability can be established
>for manipulation? 
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>This is a very important and curious development.
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>Dal
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>I am asking my friend Leon Maurer to comment on your notes separately if
>he will.
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