Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00713)

--- In theos-talk "Alaya" wrote:

The article by Cleather was already mentioned in the trail of that 
very message which you were replying to ;)

> The thing is Leadbeatter wasn't accepted by HPB in her group... she 
new that he had already failed... leadbeatter wasn't even a member of 
the ES. By the time HPB died he was just a failure in the path

We have no any evidences that HPB opinion was that he failed. But the 
Inner Group at large really failed, if I remember correctly. And if he 
wasn't there, it's really a good recommendation for him.
I don't agree with some ideas of Leadbeater, and first of all the 
World Teacher project, and unlike him and AAB I don't believe in God. 
It isn't bad to believe in God because there's a freedom of opinion 
declared by TS. But the essential difference between Leadbeater and A. 
Cleather (and many other people of that sort) that he never criticized 
anyone and never tried to ruin some other's work, but only made his 
own work, though maybe imperfectly.

> Due to leadbeatter unprepared people and willing to contact received 
false things by fake spirits

He made psychical researches even before joining TS and knew about 
fake spirits more than many others. Moreover he always emphasized the 
danger of delusion and has described in detail how it works. Because 
you spell his name wrongly I suspect that you have never read any book 
by him but only the pamphlets against him. It's like judging about HPB 
by Hodgeson report.

> He made the boy disregard the masters, averse to any occult matter.

Don't you forget that as early as in 1914 he has gone to Australia and 
lived there up to the end of his life. While as late as in 1927 
Krishnamurti still believed that he is a World Teacher.

> Alice Bailey wrote and auto-biography...

Have you read it?

> Why? do we see real masters writing about themselves?

People asked her. And she never regarded herself a master, as follows 
from the biography.

With the best wishes, Konstantin
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