Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00815)

Some issues for consideration about Leadbeater and his teachings -

Few of us claim any special spiritual status that Leadbeater did.
He therefore has put himself as fair game to be put under the 
spotlight of scrutiny for theosophical students as we try and assess 
the veracity of his writings and claims.

Leadbeater made the claim that he was in contact with and a close 
disciple of the very same adepts as Madame Blavatsky.

Repeatedly and clearly he made the claim that his teachings came from 
these same Adepts.
A comparison of his teachings with those of the Mahatma letters shows 
that many of his teachings (WHICH HE CLAIMED CAME FROM THE SAME 
ADEPTS!!!) clearly contradict and are in direct opposition to the 
Mahatmas' teachings.

How do supporters of Leadbeater and his writings explain this?
What rationale can be given in order to assess these claims of 
Leadbeater without his supporters using the usual techniques of 
either diverting attention away from the questions or simply avoiding 
answering them altogether?

To me it can only mean one of two things; either Leadbeater was 
imagining his own Mahatmas and his teachings, or he was lying.

It has been proven that Leadbeater lied about his date of birth which 
meant he also lied about seeing the Mahatma M in London as a young 
boy. These two issues have still not been answered by his supporters 
despite repeated requests on this forum.
He demonstrably lied about his father's occupation and his childhood 
adventures in South America. (See "The Elder Brother" pp 11-18 Dr. G 
Tillett)

He demonstrably lied about attending Queen's College, Oxford and
St. 
John's college, Cambridge, apparently attending each at the same 
time! He attended neither. (See "The Elder Brother" p. 15 Dr. G. 
Tillett)

He very clearly manipulated "data" in his work "The Many Lives of 
Alcycone" to suit his purpose. (See "The Elder Brother" p.114 Dr. G 
Tillett)

And now, thanks to Anand Gholap's recent "recommendation" to read
J 
Michael McBride's article from Yale University, we find
Leadbeater 
and Annie Besant using similar techniques for their work "Occult 
Chemistry". Under the sub heading "Quantitative Evidence of 
Skulduggery" the article states "Unknowingly the Occult Chemists left 
quantitative evidence suggesting that, from the beginning, at least 
Leadbeater, or Jinarajadasa, and perhaps Besant or all three, 
cynically intended to deceive." (My italics)

Moreover, Leadbeater by his own admission slept naked in the same bed 
and bathed with young boys on a regular basis, whilst engaging in 
activities which today would clearly bring about his conviction as a 
paedophilia and which would have THEN had he not employed 
paedophiles' commonly used disempowering techniques such 
as "swearing" the boys to secrecy. All this from a man "on the verge 
of divinity"?!?

Some on this group have suggested that there was nothing unusual 
about these practices in that time period.

The numerous police investigations and the thousands who resigned 
from the society due to this, AT THE TIME, would probably disagree.


Leadbeater claimed to be a high initiate in close personal contact 
with the Adept teachers of Blavatsky.
These claims are not supported by the evidence?

It can be demonstrated clearly that he may have been in communication 
with something but it certainly was not the same Adept teachers of 
Blavatsky.


So who do we accept as having greater credibility in occult 
knowledge; the Mahatmas or a commentator of highly suspect 
credentials who contradicted the teachings of the very same Mahatmas 
HE CLAIMED TO REPRESENT and whose names he used to validate 
his "authority"???

These are just some examples of why to me, Leadbeater's teachings 
need to be seriously challenged by any truly serious student of 
theosophy.

It is true, tens of thousands have read and will probably continue to 
read his writings.

Tens of thousands making a mistake, doesn't make it any less of a 
mistake.

If "There Is No Religion Higher Than Truth", as Blavatsky adopted as 
the motto for the Adyar Theosophical Society, how can
Leadbeater's 
level of lies, manipulation and deceit go unchallenged by both the 
Society and his supporters? 

How can they be summarily dismissed in one form or another by anyone 
genuinely seeking a truthful mind? What is the power that Leadbeater 
holds over his supporters? 

Are not the Adyar Society and Leadbeater's supporters perpetuating 
this monstrous deceit of the mind?

Perry