Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00066)

"Can you explain me the mistakes you have found."

Are you asking on this life or the previous one? hehhe just kidding

Christina wrote:
"I don't think they have to do with the material(words are written)
lectures of HPB. But more with the materialists in the TS, have not?"

No Chris, I don't have any problem related to H.P.B... in fact I 
adore her =) 
And you are right, there are some materialists in the TS and this 
definetly doens't fit for me and the purposes of the Society
But there are many little things who made me left...
I couldn't possibly explain all of them..
but i saw little interest in HPB in comparison to 'neo-theosophy'
And a great amount of little interest relating to everything
long meetings that never get anywhere of disscussing the first volume 
of the D.S.... for example
Most member didn't seem to want to get anywhere...
it turned into a 'discussion club'
a club!
if they were discussing Nieztche (anything!) or HPB it didn't seem to 
matter..
Many people going to meetings just to fullfill the empty space of the 
chairs... (i.e - to show to others that they go)
Many people participating on the discussions just to show the know 
something, and give 'long lectures' of technicism like if they were 
saying to the group 'see, i know'...
Many talks on chakras and this 'esoterism' of nowadays, which wasn't 
the guideline of Theosophy and HPB
Little respect when talking about the Masters
Some people trying to get attention to themselves trying to show that 
the 'masters arewith him/her'
I didn't see real interest on spiritual life...
(with few exceptions)
too much superficiality...
just people meeting like they were somehow trying to prove themselves 
that they are doing something foir their spirituality..
but what happened in the meetings was reading the book... never going 
deep..
and i can read at home...
And if you want to go deeper, claim for something more... some say 
you are being over-critic 
... "still" people.. you know

or when Mrs. Radha came here and wanted to close the Esoteric Section
and support only krishnamurti groups...
sometimes i felt like if the members were kiling HPB...
The same i felt years and years ago...

Well... this may seem over-criticism..
But I don't deny the good things...
like reprints of the old books
and some or other lecture on matters of importance...
But many of the people i liked there
also left
so...
But it is much better to go to the T.S than to be caught in any of 
the many traps one may find in the spiritual way..
'pseudo-groups'
misleading teachings...
I see the T.S weak... but not destroyng atleast, the potencial of 
people, just stoping it
some other groups are extremely dangerous
so if someone asks me where to go
i first try to estimulate the person to see that she has on our days 
all the media she needs to go by her own..
but if she still wants a group
i would sugest the T.S..





-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Alaya" <lalaya7@y...> wrote:
> Alaya
> 
> Can you explain me the mistakes you have found.
> I don't think they have to do with the material(words are written)
> lectures of HPB. But more with the materialists in the TS, have not?
> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I was...
> > but since I started to learn more I noticed some mistakes (in my 
> > point of view) in the T.S... and I thought that the true 
Theosophy 
> > wasn't there any longer... so I left...
> > But as Mrs. W. Kingsland asserts in his "open letter to annie 
> besant" 
> > one can be a theosophist whithout being a member, right?! =)
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir <forums@s...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thursday, March 3, 2005, 8:35:38 PM, Alaya wrote:
> > > 
> > > > is everyone here a member of the T.S???
> > > 
> > > Are you? :)
> > > I'm not.