Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00240)

samblo@cs.com wrote:
<<Mauri, Thanks for our reply and 
comments they are valued. Well, I was 
asked a few questions by the "other" 
Mauri and I answered them as best I 
could, I completely understand other 
views and positions relative to what I 
post on that topic, I have my own 
reservations in many cases on many 
things about it that to this day are 
unanswered. But as I told the other 
Mauri it is a very long involved story 
involving dozens of people over many 
years with much content not easily put 
in a thumb nail. >>

"Our reply?" "Other Mauri?"

<<I don't have explanations for many 
items that appear in it which scatter 
all over the place( Delphi, Dodona, 
Stonehenge, Giza, Tiahuanaco, Nasca, 
So.Cal.).>>

The tatoos of a panther and spider on 
Brian Scott reminded me of the lines 
depicting those animals on the Nazca plain.

<<The Paranormal effects were what were 
most convincing to me rather then the 
alledged events I can't prove as 
factual, and are not my claims but the 
Experiencer and Jim Frazier who 
documented what was possible
for him too. Much remains egnimatic when 
dealing with people and this kind of
thing. My own personal reaction is I get 
very skeptical when religious elements
pop up. But my ergus was to do with the 
Paranormal features more than any
thing else, it was those special events 
that had more convincing evidence to me
than any thing else that might be just 
assertions and claims that one can never
prove true. I agree they might benefit 
with Theosophy, but that also involves
their own perogatives, I don't think 
most off them had any exposure to
Theosophy with the exception of Bill 
Hamilton and myself (and I had very 
little at that time). And I began to 
look into Theosophy back then in 1977-78 
because the little I did know about 
seemed to me that it might lend some 
explanations to what was going on in the 
Paranormal events, if I had never been 
involved in Brian's experience I don't 
know if I would have indulged about 
Theosophy as I did come to, it caused me 
to make major diversion in my life just 
by reading all that I could of Theosophy 
and Blavatsky et all plus much more. 
Brian's girlfriend that was in the car 
on the trip I posted about was a bible 
thumping fundy who followed Brian around 
with a bible in her hand making him put 
his hand on it and swear he was not the 
Devil. Every one reactes differently in 
a wide spectrum and if there is a place 
where one can see it all it is in a UFO 
case. There were real Human Beings that 
were having real psychological responses 
as a result of what they experienced and 
it was not fun to the ones that this
was occuring too, those are another set 
of stories in themselves. Nobody goes to
todays schools and gets any lessons on 
how to approach these kind of
experiences if they happen to people. 
Dr. John Mack worked on just this issue 
after researching for years on what 
experiencers experience. I don't know 
what Theosophy will coach on this topic, 
very little is mentioned that I am aware 
of, I don't remember Blavatsky having 
any mention correlate to this.
Best regards,
John>>

A few years ago when I joined the local 
TS I asked the president there about 
what he thought the UFO phenomena was 
all about and got the impression that he 
hadn't read up on it hardly at all. He 
suggested that it's all elementals. I 
got the same response from other people 
I questioned in the TS. Seems to me that 
most people don't even want to read 
books about experiencers, and yet they 
seem to have answers for what it's all 
about. Seems to me as if most people in 
the TS's approach Theosophy kind of 
literally, exoterically, orthodoxically, 
as if it were another kind of orthodoxic 
religion. And seeing as they recently 
"celebrated" Annie Besant's role in 
Theosophy here at the Toronto TS, that 
tends to suggest to me that those people 
might be more interested in promoting 
some sort of Liberal Catholicism (which 
A. Besant openly promoted, apparently) 
rather than promoting Theosophy as it 
was represented by HPB. And seems to me 
that there might be lots of people on 
these lists who, because they can't 
figure out something about the essence 
of Theosophy, because they can't read 
between the lines, as a result go on to 
form opinions "about Theosophy" in a way 
that, to me, at times, seems kind of 
more in keeping with some sort of 
Liberal Catholicism, instead. And so I 
long ago gave up looking for answers 
about experiencers from the TS's in 
general.

Would anybody out there care to share 
their own strange experiences?

In my case, well, it was too long ago, 
and I have no way of knowing for sure if 
it even happened, so I don't want to get 
into it. I might've been about 7 or so 
when I thought I saw something, but ... 
who knows. But I do clearly remember 
going around for days afterwards 
thinking that it really happened. 
Except for a few odd sounds, that's 
about all I can remember in the way of 
strange experiences in my life to date.

Speculatively,
Mauri