Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00592)

One should first know what terminology author is using. Annie Besant 
standardised terminology which was followed strictly by all authors 
later in Adyar TS. Ego means higher self or soul. In long series of 
lives this soul or ego evolves. So it's evolution is important. In 
meditation consciousness should try to consciousness itself. In most 
people consciousness focusses attention on external things perceived 
by various bodies. But in meditation consciousness should withdraw 
from outer things and focus on itself.
God means Parabramha which is described as "Of the Absolute, the 
Infinite, the All-embracing, we can at our present 
stage know nothing, except that It is; we can say nothing that is not 
a limitation, and therefore inaccurate "
It is true that nobody knows much about Parabramha or God. But when 
occultist makes progress he knows unity of all. 
Logos does not have gender male or female as far as I know.
Theosophy is complex so if a beginner is evolved intellectually and 
to some extent spiritually, he would like books of Leadbeater.

Anand Gholap 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M. Sufilight" <global-
theosophy@s...> wrote:
> Being an honest seeker, who also have seen Harry Potter,
> I have a few questions:
> 
> Is CWL suggesting, that one should concentrate upon the Ego, but 
not upon 
> God / Brahman ?
> Or what is he suggesting ?
> Should I meditate on my Ego and not on God/Brahman as Atma ?
> 
> I quote CWL:
> "Of the Absolute, the Infinite, the All-embracing, we can at our 
present 
> stage know nothing, except that It is; we can say nothing that is 
not a 
> limitation, and therefore inaccurate.
> 
> 25. In 
It are 
> innumerable universes; in each universe countless solar systems. 
Each solar 
> system is the expression of a mighty Being, whom we call the Logos, 
the Word 
> of God, the Solar Deity. He is to it all that men mean by God. He 
permeates 
> it; there is nothing in it which is not He; it is the manifestation 
of Him 
> in such matter as we can see. Yet He exists above it and outside 
it, living 
> a stupendous life of His own among His Peers. As is said in Eastern 
> Scripture: "Having permeated this whole universe with one fragment 
of 
> Myself, I remain".
> 
> 26. Of 
this 
> higher life of His we can know nothing. But of the fragment of His 
life 
> which energizes His system we may know something in the lower 
levels of its 
> manifestation. We may not see Him, but we may see His power at 
work. No one 
> who is clairvoyant can be atheistic; the evidence is too tremendous.
> 
> 27. 
Out of 
> Himself He has called this mighty system into being. We who are in 
it are 
> evolving fragments of His life, Sparks of His divine Fire; from Him 
we all 
> have come; into Him we shall all return.
> 
> 28. 
Many have 
> asked why He as done this; why He (Page 10) has emanated from 
Himself all 
> this system; why He has sent us forth to face the storms of life. 
We cannot 
> know, nor is the question practical; suffice it that we are here, 
and we 
> must do our best. Yet many philosophers have speculated on this 
point and 
> many suggestions have been made. The most beautiful that I know is 
that of a 
> Gnostic philosopher:
> 
> 
29. "God is 
> Love, but Love itself cannot be perfect unless it has those upon 
whom it can 
> be lavished and by whom it can be returned. Therefore He put forth 
of 
> Himself into matter, and He limited His glory, in order that 
through this 
> natural and slow process of evolution we might come into being; and 
we in 
> turn according to His will are to develop until we reach even His 
own level, 
> and then the very love of God itself will become more perfect, 
because it 
> will then be lavished on those, His own children, who will fully 
understand 
> and return it, and so His great scheme will be realized and His 
Will be 
> done".
> 
> 
> Now I ask you:
> Is LOGOS as male or a female?
> 
> I just ask you how this teaching by CWL would be absorbed by the 
beginner 
> Seekers of today?
> 
> 
> -------
> A few words:
> >>> A different kind of Clairvoyance <<<
> Those interested in understanding the problems surrounding "the 
true or 
> false
> Teachers of the Theosophical arts" could with advantage read the 
content of 
> the following link and
> use the words Theossophy as Theosophical/Theosophy= Sufi/Sufism or 
similar:
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/sufi/sufi-shah.html
> 
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with a friendly smile...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:08 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Many Theos-talk members love and respect 
> Leadbeater.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Here are some points.
> > " The object of the whole previous evolution has been to produce 
the
> > ego as a manifestation of the Monad. Then the ego in its turn 
evolves
> > by putting itself down into a succession of personalities. Men 
who do
> > not understand this look upon the personality as the self, and
> > consequently live for it alone, and try to regulate their lives 
for
> > what appears to be its temporary advantage. The man who 
understands
> > realizes that the only important thing is the life of the ego, and
> > that its progress is the object for which the temporary 
personality
> > must be used. Therefore when he has to decide between two possible
> > courses he thinks not, as the ordinary man might: "Which will 
bring
> > the greater pleasure and profit to me as a personality?" 
but "Which
> > will bring greater progress to me as an ego?" Experience soon 
teaches
> > him that nothing can ever be really good for him, or for any one,
> > which is not good for all, and so presently he learns to forget
> > himself altogether, and to ask only what will be best for 
humanity as
> > a whole. "
> > Complete book can be read at
> >
> > http://www.anandgholap.net/Textbook_Of_Theosophy-CWL.htm
> >
> > Anand Gholap
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