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Re: Theos-World It's not like I forget,

Apr 20, 2005 04:35 AM
by Iain


Niki,
I've never been accused of righteousness, any one who knows me that is that what you see is what you get,I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear, and I have done nothing that I am ashamed off.Like everyone I make mistakes, errors of judgement, bad decisions and stuff things up, who hasn't?but I'll stand by what I've done or said.If you see something about me that I don't want to see then tough.If something is wrong then I will call it as it is.If that hurts someone's pride and vanity then ,so be it.
As I have said before you have a lot to offer but being self indulgent wallowing in self pity is wrong.Is this Tough Love ?then yes it is freely given without condition By now you will feel angry and indignant and will mouth off a few unpleasantries, fine get it out of your system, perhaps your chuckle muscle will be back in action after that. I do not judge you but I see someone looking for the easy way out,that the world owes you something, Do you find it difficult to make friends, I get the impression that behind the façade that you try to portray,their is a vulnerable, lonely person.who is screaming out to be wanted and loved,there are many of us human beings in the same predicament. to be wanted and loved are the basic emotions that we share. I DO CARE FOR YOU AND I WILL STAND BY YOU
but you will have to reach out and not bite me!
My chuckles are written for every one to enjoy,it just so happens that when someone writes something it is an instantaneous reply, What makes you laugh?What do you enjoy doing?
Ok. I'll give you the biggest hug ever,lots of love
your devoted friend Iain
----- Original Message ----- From: "Niki Durand" <nikidurand@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World It's not like I forget,


Hey Iain-

Why can't I get the chuckles from you that you so
freely give to Christina?

I need a hug, not righteousness.

If I have your goat, it's because maybe I see
something about you you don't want to see about
yourself...

Big deal, we all f**k up sometimes...every one...

Lighten up sweetie! So you fell in my trap, let it
loose, life indeed is too precious to keep fighting!

Now, can I get a chuckle from you?

No traps now, promise! ;-)

Niki, East of Java


--- Iain <ibse03888@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:


Whose deluded? your the one thats setting traps, and
showing paranoia,I
would think that you do start conflicts I would even
say that you enjoy
conflict, and run away to some sucker who will
listen to your sob-story.
Does this go back too your childhood? Why do you
think that you are a
scapegoat?Is this the hard luck story we're about to
get again? What 5
million page treatise from the Theosophical Vaults
are you refering too?
There is none here, are you imagining things again?
Take your time, I have all the time in the world.
Cheers Iain

----- Original Message ----- From: "Niki Durand" <nikidurand@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World It's not like I forget,


>
> Iain-
>
> Please stop this! You aren't sitting at my
computer
> reading post after post telling me I'm deluded,
here
> read this 5 million page treatise from the
> Theosophical vaults! I never start conflicts, I
only
> respond to them. And thank you for giving me so
much
> power to say I've brought, single-handedly, strife
to
> the group. If you really need a scapegoat, ask me
> first if I want to be one, don't elect me
outright!
>
> Gee, what does a scapegoat wear to the market?
Hmmm...
>
> By the way, you've just fallen into my trap! When
I
> posted what you just replied to, it was designed
to
> trap guilty hearts...and both you and Krishtar
have
> fallen in...anybody with a clean conscience
wouldn't
> even feel a need to respond...
>
> Now, shoo!
>
> Niki
>
>
> --- Iain <ibse03888@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Niki,A lot of people opened to you and in return
>> you have given abuse and
>> insult.You have brought disharmony here,Yes we
all
>> feel sorry for you, yes
>> sorry, but it does look like that you are looking
>> for aggravation, is this a
>> frustration display? possibly or is it just
>> attention seeking? very likely.
>> What a hard life you have had, ..or have you?
some
>> of your statements seem
>> to be a bit Mills and Boon ,Perhaps your jealous
of
>> others that can cope
>> with what life has to offer. Many of the people
have
>> a harder life than you.
>> Are you looking for an emotional crutch, a patsy
>> that will fall in with your
>> faultless ways so that you can carry on in
whatever
>> manner you think you
>> should. Sorry kid, perhaps its time for you to
grow
>> up.
>> cheers Iain
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Niki Durand" <nikidurand@yahoo.com>
>> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World It's not like I forget,
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Look Krishtar-
>> >
>> > We can make this our last post together, after
>> your
>> > obvious rebuttal, 'cos I'm onto you.
>> >
>> > I placed a post, in public, and asked nothing,
>> other
>> > than an open mind. I've been mat with mostly
>> dogma,
>> > and now you've joined in that. You came to me
with
>> > bias, as if you actually knew something about
my
>> > experiences, and managed to be demeaning along
the
>> > way. When I called you on it, very fairly I
feel,
>> I
>> > get this petulant reply below. If you were as
>> > objective and compassionate as you feel, then
you
>> > would've realized I still have a great deal of
>> pain.
>> > You write from a place of negative male energy,
>> which
>> > always wants to be right at all costs.
Someone's
>> grief
>> > means nothing to people like you if being right
>> looms
>> > on the horizon. Well, K. I have tyre tracks on
my
>> back
>> > from your rush to claim another bon-bon for
your
>> ego
>> > basket.
>> >
>> > I hope you NEVER have to suffer the sudden loss
of
>> > your mate. Maybe then you'll have an inkling of
>> what
>> > I'm going through. I'm sharing intimate
thoughts
>> > freely...but go ahead and feel free to continue
>> > pissing on them to satisfy your desire to be
>> right.
>> >
>> > By the way, did you notice I didn't sign my
usual
>> > "love" on the post you responded to? That's
>> because I
>> > was being sacastic...and it ws intended for
anyone
>> who
>> > felt guilty- like you! You just fell for my
trap,
>> and
>> > now I know where you stand...ooops! don't look
>> down,
>> > that's spiritual dog-poo yer standing in...
>> >
>> > Niki
>> >
>> > ps...like with anyone else I've ever had a
>> conflict
>> > with I'm willing to come to peace, if you are.
But
>> I
>> > won't ever be talked down to, not even by
God...
>> >
>> >
>> > --- krishtar <krishtar_a@brturbo.com.br> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Niki,
>> >> You always used the word "love" in your
e-.mails.
>> >> You asked respect for your feelings towards
>> someone
>> >> you love.
>> >> You ask people to respect your and share your
>> >> experiences and have empathy for the sorrow
you
>> >> mentioned by the living of your "soulmate".
>> >>
>> >> Here I put a question for your reflection and
>> >> consideration.
>> >> The same empathy and consideration you plea
you
>> >> should offer to all of us, here.
>> >> It is a list of theosophy, of people who try
to
>> >> study theosophy.
>> >> One of the principal characteristics of this
>> study
>> >> is impartiality, objectiveness.
>> >> Here we are not attached to the study and
>> researches
>> >> on siddhis, which are empty in their essence
and

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