Theos-Talk Archives (September 2005 Message tt00130)

Hallo Cass and friends,

My views are:

Now to be polite I will answer your questions.

1.

Cass wrote:
"Can you explain the idea behind this? Elitism if nothing else?"

My Sufilight answer:
Maybe I can and maybe not. The central issue to me, is that there COULD be 
other motives, (other than those you Cass are talking about), behind the 
actions taken by the US Government even if it to some appears to be 
otherwise, - to some shall we say more or less ignorant persons.

I do not like to be called an american patriot, especially when it is not 
true.

I just simply think it is better to gain real Knowledge about the motives 
behind various actions before one without real knowledge starts pointing 
fingers at persons or Institutions, - persons which I consider my near and 
dear friends in the future yet to come. I am talking about all of you on the 
physical plane.

To use Opinion, belief, assumptions or that "something appears to be in a 
certain manner" as if it was real knowledge, will in fact never make it true 
and Real Knowledge.
We aught to use the inner Organ - i.e. the Buddhi or Atmic organ, when we 
judge what motives various persons have with their actions.

Sometimes the initiates or even the Masters are motivating spiritual 
beginners, so that they wake up.
They might sometimes use the television to do that. The question is when and 
how they do it, and when not?
Don't you think so?


Even Krishna fought side by side with Arjuna as it is romoured in the 
Bhagavad Gita - The Song Celestial.
Their motives where compasionate even so - we know this because it is 
defined to be so, to us in the texts.
What else do we know?


2.
It is strange, this talk you have about a possible need to "apologize".
I have only been talking about doing something compassionate. If there for 
some strange reason is a compassionate need to "apologize, then I think one 
aught to do so.

If there is a compasionate need for remaining silent or inactive when a 
hurricane strikes - one aught to follow up on that need.
What is Wisdom really and truely?



3.
Cass wrote:
"I have no idea what you are referring to in relation to your sex change."


My Sufilight answer:
Dear Cass, I think that I for obvious reason thought you called me by the 
name "Katinka" in your earlier answering email.
Now my name is truely not "Katinka" and I am not a female. I do hesitate 
when someone tries to confuse the realities, even if it is you who is doing 
it.
Did that help you?


***
And Cass - I think A more polite answer coming from you would have been 
better.
***


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The competence of another man or institution


Dear Morton
Behind the idea, is that people are dying needlessly because of politics and 
politicians. Your patriotism is honourable and if my comments offended you 
I apologise. However, the fact remains, people's dignity must come before 
public image. Mr. Bush is putting out the image that the US requires no 
outside assistance from the world that America is in full control of the 
disaster and his latest contribution regarding his returning in two years to 
a "New New Orleans" is not, I imagine what the evacuees need to hear right 
now. He appears to be totally out of touch with the situation. And unlike 
Caeser's wife, he is not above reproach.

The Netherlands, has on standby, an expert team on levees to shut off the 
flow and help with reconstruction, fact, Mr. Bush has said No. Cuba has 
offered 1500 MD's, Mr Bush has said No. The Germans have offered to send 
their elite crew to assist with the evacuees, fact Mr Bush says No. the list 
goes on. Within 48 hours the world offered it's hand to the citizens of New 
Orleans, the offer was rejected. Can you explain the idea behind this? 
Elitism if nothing else?

I do not believe I have confused belief or assumptions with real knowledge, 
as CNN, Fox, BBC have been broadcasting 24 hours on the relief situation. 
Hundreds of stories of incompetence are now coming out. Hence my opinion 
that there are too many chiefs and not enough indians. Finally, however, the 
right man has stepped up and has accomplished more in 24 hours than those 
previously in charge accomplished in 7 days. An army general, who cares 
more about the citizens of New Orleans than about the public image of the 
politicians. As Hazrat Inayat Khan says, "One's duty is to do now what can 
be done now. Nothing that one really values should one put off till 
tomorrow".

I do not apologize for spending time studying theosophy or any other subject 
I see fit to study, nor do I need to apologize for spending time in 
discussion with others of like views or contrary views, via forums. I have 
worked, probably, longer than you have been alive, and if I choose to spend 
my free time in this way, I have no problem with that.

Help comes in many forms and perhaps those who are unable to "be on the 
ground" can assist in bringing about a change of thinking. We all have a 
part to play in the future of this planet, and when one offers a hand it 
says more about the person who bites it than the one who offers it.

I have no idea what you are referring to in relation to your sex change.

I attach an American's thinking on the subject.

Cass

by Mitch Battros - ECTV





I'm going to give it to you hard and straight...Mike Brown should be fired. 
Actually he should be persecuted for negligence. Folks, I work in this field 
so I can tell you first hand he does not reflect one single person I have 
ever worked with. This guy is not respected by anyone in the field, and I am 
appalled at what I have witnessed with FEMA. What the world has witnessed 
'does not' reflect the vast majority of professionals and volunteers in 
emergency management.



I have little doubt director of FEMA Mike Brown, would like to blame this on 
the administration, and he would be absolutely right to do so. I just hope 
he has the balls to do it, but from what I have seen of his reports to the 
nation, I don't think so. The responsibility lays directly at the feet of 
the President. That's right, Bubba Bush is the culprit. Sure, one could say 
he is nothing more than the puppet of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, and this 
may be true, but if he had the fortitude to stand up for himself and be more 
like his father, then he would have cut the strings long ago.



MIKE BROWN - YOU'RE FIRED Now get the hell out of my office before I kick 
your "I didn't do it, but I'm in control" ass.



In large part it really comes down to Bubba having our National Guard in 
Iraq. This in part was one of the main arteries which led to the worse 
crisis management in history. I love the "principals" of my country, and I 
grieve for what it has become. Folks, I travel the world as many of you, so 
I say this with authority. The world was laughing at us, then they despised 
us, now they "pity us". The world is watching in dis-belief. Statements like 
"look at them, they get a major catastrophe and they look like the "Three 
Stooges".



GEORGE 'BUBBA' BUSH, YOU'RE FIRED. Now get the hell out of "our" office 
before I send you to real 'boot camp' with General Honore and let you get 
some training. Don't worry, we'll let you see your mamma from time to time. 
No, I'm not saying you're a mamma's boy, but are you? Now get the hell out 
of here before I call your mamma to really let you have it.



The next person that should be removed immediately is the so-called Homeland 
Security director Michael Chertoff. This mal-nutritioned, anemic, skinny 
Frankenstein idiot has to go. Actually the so-called "Homeland Security" 
model is nothing but a waste bucket which has served no purpose whatsoever. 
It is broken and never really had a chance of being a useful instrument in 
the first place. Whose dumb idea was this anyway?



MICHAEL CHERTOFF - YOU'RE FIRED. Now get the hell out of my office. And go 
eat something, you look like walking death.



Thank God for General Russell Honore. I could be wrong, but I think General 
Honore is the one person who has held closest to FEMA and RED CROSS rescue. 
It would appear he is the only one who is getting anything done. He seems to 
be one of those people who calls it as he sees it. Some may like it, some 
may not, but you know where he stands. Disclaimer: I hope I don't have to 
eat these words, but he seems authentic to me.



Regarding the most reckless statements ever produced by someone in crisis 
management "we didn't expect this to happen"; is nothing less than an 
out-right LIE. When I first heard this last week my jaw dropped in 
disbelief. I could not believe my ears, and this coming from all "three 
stooges" Bubba, Brown and Chertoff.



Folks, I assure you everyone in the field of emergency management knew this 
could happen. Contingency plans have been drawn up and rehearsed for the 
last few years.



I must make one very important note.of all most likely disasters, the 
scenario of New Orleans would probably be the most difficult to address. 
This is due to such a large area being flooded and is indeed much more 
difficult to triage and cordon off than dry land; this includes nuclear or 
biological events.



In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the 
three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New 
Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war. In 
early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating 
that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely 
disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 
2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up 
as it was drained into the Iraq war.



Full Article: http://www.earthchangestv.com/artman/publish/article_9498.php





"M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
A few views to Cass Silva
It is not often, that people try to change my sex.
Maybe you would care to tell me about your agenda behind that idea?

My name is M. Sufilight and the physical body is still a male one.

I would however like to know, what you in your answer agree upon?
Is it your inadequate Knowledge about the institution called the US
Government and its members motives you agree upon?

Let us not confuse mere belief or assumptions with real Knowledge.
Sometimes even initiates act very weird, so I am heasitating a bit.

A view of mine:
There are theosophists who do not help people in need.
They sit down and email all day long at various forums.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cass Silva"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The competence of another man or institution


> I agree Katinka, pride before a fall.
> Cass
>
> "M. Sufilight" wrote:
> Hallo all,
>
>
> "The bitter truth is that before man can know his own inadequacy, or the
> competence of another man or institution, he must first learn something
> which will enable him to perceive both. Note well that his perception
> itself is a product of right study; not of instinct or emotional
> attraction to the individual, nor yet of desiring to 'go it alone'. This
> is 'Learning How To
> Learn."
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/sufi/teacher.html
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