Theos-Talk Archives (September 2005 Message tt00200)

Mantras and chanting are used very frequently in Reiki and Chi kung.
Their effectiveness is only as good as the user's intent and focus;
just saying the words doesn't do anything at all. It's supposed to
raise the intensity and feeling you get when you practice (sometimes
giving you a euphoric feeling when using healing arts).

Same things with scents, music, and other sensory stimulation.
However, I was scolded for using music. If you're an actual initiate,
don't use any such aids.

-Mark H.


On 9/13/05, dalval14@earthlink.net <dalval14@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 9/13/2005 3:28 PM
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> Re: chanting, etc....
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> Dear Steve:
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> Consider who and what is the question about.
> 
> Somebody thinks they have discovered a short-cut to the higher planes of
> being not realizing that those planes and entities are WITHIN.
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> It is the old "get something for free, and at no cost to me" attitude.
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> Also: How does one select an honest and true, disinterested "Master" [who
> will accept no recompense] to give an appropriate chant -- I have looked at
> the few offered. No instructions and no knowledge of the applicant is
> visible there -- so, what can the use of those be ?
> 
> The reason chanting is discouraged in the ancient inner schools, is that the
> lower mind runs on after awhile without concentration; while the higher mind
> is shut off from the study and the mediation on the intent of any meaning
> behind a given "chant."
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> [ An Example: A beginner was give my his Master the chant: "RAMA - RAMA
> -- RAMA." to be repeated for several minutes.
> 
> The Master entered the room after a few minutes and to his horror he heard
> the student repeating, without being aware of it, : MARA -- MARA --
> MARA -- he had inadvertently, because of inattention, reversed the chant
> from: RAMA to MARA.] Mara is of course the "deceiver" and evil, whereas
> Rama is the good and the true.
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> The first desire is to purify the lower self. How to go about it?
> 
> Patanjali hints that there is the need to develop (as a preliminary) such
> steadiness and control of the Lower Mind that it can be held steady on the
> minutest object for as long as the pupil desires to so place it. But thatis
> only a start. Next is the discrimination needed to select an appropriate
> subject.
> 
> Also, there are psychological effects of a selfish kind, that sound and
> rhythm produce on the embodied mind -- and it is these that may be adverse,
> unless the individual has undertaken, as a priority, the task of analysing
> the potential of such sounds and rhythms on his own lower nature. If not
> controlled the Lower takes over and the whole exercise is frustrated.
> 
> Obviously, the BUDDHI-MANAS and the ATMA-BUDDHI within need no such
> extraneous aids. So, for the deep student, this a useless matter.
> 
> Our task as I understand it, is to make the Lower self the harmonious and
> dutiful servant of the HIGHER SELF. It is the only way in which the
> Lower-Self (purified) can leave an indelible impression of its work and
> existence. (See The KEY TO THEOSOPHY, pp. 134-7, 132, 153, 176, 219.)
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dallas
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: steven levey [mailto:levey_steven@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:05 AM
> To: study@blavatsky.net
> Subject: [bn-study] Re: i want more chanting words
> 
> Tanuja
> 
> Thanks for that. Although I am not inclined to chant, I think that I
> continuously find myself saying something like the chant you offered to
> myself, on a daily basis.
> 
> Steve
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Mark Hamilton Jr.
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