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Re: Theos-World Re: Re: Science vs. Theosophy

Jan 13, 2006 10:38 PM
by Cass Silva


Hello Leon
Read this in Isis Unveiled P425, "Instinct, as a divine spark, lurks in theunconscious nerve-centre of the ascidian mollusk, and manifests itself at the first stage of action of its nervous system as what the physiologist terms the reflex action. It exists in the lowest classes of the acephalous animals as well as in those that have distinct heads; it grows and develops according to the law of the double evolution, physically and spiritually; and entering upon its conscious stage of development and progress in the cephalous species already endowed with a sensorium and symetrically-arranged ganglia, this reflex action, whether men of science term it automatic, as inthe lowest species, or instinctive, as in the more complex organisms whichact under the guidance of the sensorium and the stimulus originating in distinct sensation, is still one and the same thing. It is the divine instinct in its ceaseless progress of development.

Is what you term "awareness and will" is this instinct?

Cass

Cass

leonmaurer@aol.com wrote: Dear Christine,

I thought the basis of the disagreement was fully explained when I said that 
the subjective aspects of thought attributed to the brain by scientists, 
actually belonged to the zero-point(s) of "absolute" space along with the mind that 
exist(s) beyond all "metric" space, time, (and brain meat, so to speak. :-)

My basic premise, in accord with HPB's outline of the Secret Doctrine, is 
that the brain cannot "think" -- as physicalist/materialist scientists presume -- 
but can only process the sensory images that come up in our thoughts guided 
by the awareness and will of our consciousness, and carried as holographic wave 
interference patterns in the mind (thought, reason, intuition, memory, etc.) 
-- that, as "coadunate but not consubstantial" (i.e., multidimensional 
"hyperspace") fields, also exist beyond the physical properties of the brain-body and 
its neural system.   

Thus, the brain is nothing more than a highly complex and malleable 
transponding/transforming electrochemical control system between the physical senses, 
the body's muscular system, and the mind (which is directly accessed by its 
zero-point center of consciousness, as well in inductive resonance with the 
sensory image modulations carried by the brain's electromagnetic field). Thus 
sensory images are transformed and inductively mapped from the brain field into 
mind-memory field images, and vice versa. This enables the consciousness to 
be in direct control of the positions of the body with relation to the outer 
world. Such conscious control enables a baseball player to single handedly 
catch a high fly ball on the run, and a skilled fine artist to place her brush 
exactly on a point of an image on the canvas in exact correspondence with that 
point of the model she sees, at the moment of a single glance, in her mind.   
These are amazing feats that only a remote single pointed awareness and will 
could achieve, in combination with a mappable mind field and a malleable and 
trainable neural network coupled with its elctromagnetic brain wave field.   
Incidentally, this malleability of the neural network implies that each neuron is 
also conscious to a limited degree -- as are all the other cells in our bodies 
that respond to their signals.

In this view, we assume that the other aspects of our human awareness and 
thought, such as discernment, discrimination, comprehension, decision, choice, 
self consciousness, etc., are also properties of the zero-points of 
consciousness or higher Self that is centered in our Spiritual Atma and Buddhi-Manas 
fields. (Of course, all this can be influenced by our lower self, whose 
zero-points of consciousness are centered in our animal-like Astral Kama-Manas fields.) 
For a symbolic view of how these fields involve and relate to each other, 
see diagrams at: 
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html,
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/manfields.ht
ml#anchor1749200
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/TaiChiFldDiag-figure-2.gif
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/Chakrafielddiag-fig.col.jpg

Hope this clarifies these ideas a bit further.

Best regards,

Lenny

In a message dated 1/11/06 1:12:24 PM, cmmullee@hotmail.com writes:


> January 10, 2006
> 
> Dear Leon:
> 
> In reply to your e-mail of January 9, 2006, concerning a counter argument
> refuting a scientist claiming the "brain thinks," the question arises
> whether this opinion would be better served if further explanation was given
> explaining the basis for the disagreement.� In other words, is your opinion
> based on an idea that the brain thinks independently of the rest of the
> anatomy?� In what context are you basing your opinion?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Christine
> 
> 
> >From: LeonMaurer@aol.com
> >Reply-To: study@blavatsky.net
> >To: study@blavatsky.net
> >Subject: [bn-study] Re: Science vs. Theosophy
> >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:59:33 EST
> >
> >Just an added observation I once posted on the Journal of Consciousness 
> Study
> >online forum -- in a similar mode of counter argument refuting a scientist
> >claiming the "brain thinks.�� My argument was never logically, 
> scientifically or
> >even philosophically refuted.�� (Although one reputed quantum physicist 
> said
> >I was "barking up a tree."�� The Quantum-Mind forum, on the other hand,
> >simply refused to post it. :-)
> >-----------------
> >
> >"Contrary to the unfounded, hence, "religious" belief of most reductive
> >scientists of a materialist bent; The Brain does NOT "think," "feel," 
> "smell,"
> >"taste," "hear," "recall," "remember," or "imagine"... Since, those are the
> >functions of the zero-points of consciousness (awareness-will) that links
> >directly to the mind and memory -- which exists as separate fields of 
> >energies enfolded within the apparently empty space between the
> >hyperspace "particles," and outside of all metric time and space -- yet 
> >interconnected inductively with the electromagnetic fields of the brain
> > and all other cellular structures of the body through their individual 
> >hyperspace fields.�� This interconnection allows us to place our bodies
> >at any desired location within the outer world field -- enabling a 
> >baseball to be caught on the fly, and an artist to place the point
> >of the brush on the exact point on the canvas corresponding to the 
> >model and the painting pictured in the mind.
> >
> >All such fields are funda-mentally electrical in nature, and obey all its
> >laws of harmony, cycles, symmetry and conservation of both matter and
> >energy -- although their vectorial constants are different in value 
> depending 
> >on their mfrequency energy phase order.
> >
> >It's these fields that carry all the information or contents of 
> consciousness
> >-- as encoded holographic interference patterns (modulated as waves on the
> >surfaces or "membranes" of the fields) -- that are capable of being 
> transformed
> >analogously from one hyperspace field level to another by inductive
> >resonance, e.g., strike a "string" or "note" in one field, and the 
> vibration
> >resonates at the same equivalent pitch or note in adjacent higher ordered
> >frequency-energy spectrum phase fields, as they cascade down to the zero-
> >point of their origination. Thus, no experiential information, in the form 
> of wave
> >vibrational patterns of energy, can ever be lost.
> >
> >The images of consciousness on the surface of the highest frequency-energy
> >phase order field is capable of being reconstructed and detected 
> reflectively,
> >by a single coherent ray of corresponding frequency energy projected from
> >anynon local zero-point of consciousness.�� The brain issimply a 
> transducer,
> >transponder, and controller functioning as the linkage between the various
> >channels of sensory input and the ubiquitous zero-points of consciousness
> >throughout the overall field of the human organism."
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >
> >Lenny
> >
> 
> 



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