Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00466)

Mr. Carlos,

Most of the information that Leadbeater provides in his books was 
obtained during his travels in the astral world. I am assuming that 
are like me and are unable to visit the astral world consciously. So 
just like me you can only verify what exists in the physical world. 

So this may be just as hard for you to believe as believing 
Leadbeater's stories or that there is a such a person as Sanat 
Kumara - but from what I understand, the living beings on most of the 
other planets do not have dense physical bodies, they only have 
etheric bodies (also astal, mental etc). Hence, none of them are 
visible to the human eye (or to Nasa's instruments).

Someday, both you and I may acquire etheric vision and/or learn to 
travel in the astral world (this may take a few more lives). When 
that happens, we can verify for ourselves how accurate Leadbeater was 
in his descriptions (the astral world is full of distortions, so I 
sure there are many inaccuracies). In the mean time, please don't 
imagine that you know everything there is to know about life or non-
life on Mars.

Regards,

Dave
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> Some important socio-astronomical discoveries
> made by Mr. Leadbeater,  see below.   Carlos.
> 
> 
> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> 
> The Founder of the Liberal Catholic
> Church Reports From the Red Planet:
> 
> C. W. LEADBEATER AND THE  DAILY LIFE ON MARS
> 
> By Carlos Cardoso Aveline
> 
> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> 
> 
> In his book "Inner Life", Mr. Charles Leadbeater made 
extraordinary  
> revelations about life on the Planet Mars.
> 
> At the time these  "revelations" were first published, in 1910, 
most Adyar 
> Theosophists believed them all  to be literally true, as the author 
> emphatically claimed. Few dared question him. After all, Leadbeater 
seemed 
> to have frequent personal conversations with "Lord Christ" and 
other great 
> spiritual authorities.
> 
> Yet for some undeclared reason between the 1960s and the 1970s the  
Adyar TS 
> editors got rather timid and   decided to quietly  remove CWL's 
Mercurian 
> and Martian revelations from any new editions of  his book  "Inner 
Life".
> 
> During his several personal though fake and imaginary visits to the 
planet 
> Mars, C. W. L. – who was the main founder of the Liberal Catholic 
Church –  
> could see and observe the development of daily life on the red 
planet.  He 
> reports that some  Martians use metal sandals in their feet, and 
that others 
> look like Norwegian people on earth.  See  what he wrote in his 
book  "Inner 
> Life":
> 
> "The whole civilized population of Mars is one  race, and there is 
> practically no difference in features or complexion, except that, 
just as 
> among ourselves, there are blondes and brunettes, some of the 
people having 
> a  faintly yellowish  skin and black hair, while the majority have 
yellow 
> hair and blue or violet eyes –  somewhat Norwegian in appearance.  
They 
> dress mostly in brilliant colours and both sexes wear an almost 
shapeless 
> garment of some very soft material which falls straight from the 
shoulders 
> down to the feet. Generally the feet are bare,  though they 
sometimes use a 
> sort of metal sandal or slipper,  with a thong round  the ankle."
> 
> Perhaps C.W.L. was representing  his Liberal Catholic Church 
(L.C.C.)  
> during his several travels to the neighbour planet –  but we don't 
have his 
> confirmation  about this. Instead,  Bishop Leadbeater comments on 
the 
> Martian's  flowers, gardens and city-planning:
> 
> "They  are very fond of flowers, of which there is a great variety, 
and 
> their towns are built on the general plan of the garden-city, the 
houses 
> usually being one-storeyed only, but built round inner courtyards 
and 
> straggling over a great deal of ground. These houses look 
exteriorly as 
> though built of coloured glass, and indeed the material which is 
used is 
> transparent, but it is somehow so fluted that while the person 
inside enjoy 
> an almost unimpeded view of their gardens, no one from the outside 
can see 
> what is going on in the house."
> 
> The remarkable clairvoyant does not tell his readers whether he 
wanted  to 
> have his own books published  by the  Martian Publishing Houses.  
Yet  it is 
>   certain that he got interested in the cultural life of the red 
planet's 
> inhabitants,  for he writes:
> 
> "They have two methods of recording their thoughts.  One is to 
speak into a 
> small box with a mouthpiece on one side of it, something like that 
of a 
> telephone.  Each word so spoken is by the mechanism expressed as a 
kind of 
> complicated sign upon a little plate of metal (...) which can  
easily be 
> read by those who are familiar with the scheme. The other plan is 
actually 
> to write by hand, but  that is an enormously more difficult 
acquirement,  
> for the script is a very complicated kind of shorthand which can be 
written 
> as  rapidly as one can speak.  It is in this latter script that all 
their 
> books are printed, and  these latter are usually in the shape of 
rolls made 
> of very thin flexible metal.  The engraving of them is exceedingly 
minute, 
> and it is customary to read it through a magnifier, which is  fixed 
> conveniently upon a stand. In the stand there is the machinery 
which unrolls 
> the  scroll before the magnifier at any desired rate, so that one 
reads 
> without needing to touch the book at all."
> 
> On the possibility of communication between Martians and 
terrestrians, the 
> somewhat delirious Bishop  writes that this is not difficult.  
After 
> mentioning that there is a secret society in Mars, he explains, 
carried on 
> by some feverish imagination:
> 
> "Some at least of the members of the secret society have learnt how 
to cross 
> without great difficulty the space which separates us from Mars, 
and have 
> therefore  at various times tried to manifest themselves through 
mediums at 
> spiritual seances, or have been able, by the methods which they 
have learnt, 
> to impress their ideas on poets and novelists."
> 
> In the next paragraph, Leadbeater describes the first-hand 
character of his 
> personal  description about physical life on Mars.
> 
> "The information which I have given above is based upon 
observation  and 
> enquiry during various visits to the planet; yet nearly all of it 
might be 
> found in the works of various writers within the last thirty or 
forty years, 
> and in all such cases it has be en communicated or impressed by 
someone from 
> Mars, although the very fact  of such impression  was (at least in 
some 
> cases) quite unknown to the physical writer."
> 
> An important aspect of the Bishop's mission to Mars may refer to 
religion. 
> Mr. Leadbeater, who modestly used to confess that  he had regular 
talks with 
> Lord Christ,  writes about Martians:
> 
> "One of the most remarkable things about this people is that they 
have 
> absolutely no religion. There are no churches, no temples, no 
places of 
> worship of any sort whatever, no priests, no ecclesiastical power."
> 
> This leads us to raise a question or two to the Historians of the 
Adyar 
> Society.  We all know Mr. Leadbeater had strong  Christian 
missionary 
> impulses.  Is is possible, then,  that during his several visits to 
Mars he 
> was actually preparing a religious mission to that Planet, a 
mission  to be 
> developed by well-trained  priests of the Liberal Catholic Church?  
In  that 
> case,  could there be,  right now,  a group of L.C.C. priests 
celebrating 
> Mass and feverishly  preaching the Gospel  among Martians? I leave 
this 
> question  for  Historians to investigate.
> 
> In any case, one thing is certain: the degree of "accuracy"  we 
find in C.W. 
> Leadbeaters'  wild  descriptions of life on Mars, is the same 
degree of 
> irresponsible imagination with which he  described his talks with 
Masters of 
> the Wisdom,  and created the several ritualistic schemes even now 
existing 
> behind the scenes of the Adyar Theosophical Society.
> 
> For some unknown reason,  it is these ritualistic quarters which 
seem to be 
> most  interested in adopting the 19th century libels against H. P. 
Blavatsky 
> as if they were part of the theosophical literature, something 
which the 
> Adyar President Ms. Radha Burnier does not approve of.  Yet  the 
Adyar 
> President  told me in a 2004 letter  that –  she can't  do 
anything  about 
> that.
> 
> 
> 
> O o o O o o O o o O o o O o o O
> 
> 
> A BIBLIOGRAPHICAL NOTE :
> 
> All the paragraphs quoted above are from the book "Inner Life", by 
C. W. 
> Leadbeater, Section Ten. The text was published  by the magazine 
> "Theosophical History", London, January 1988; see pages 144-148 for 
the 
> sentences quoted above.  I have the same text in the Spanish 
edition of 
> "Inner Life", by CWL,  published in Buenos Aires by Editorial Glem 
(pp. 
> 389-394). In  later years the USA T.P.H. editions of the 
book "Inner Life" 
> have silently eliminated this description, as well as the brief but 
> astonishing description of physical life on Mercury. Yet a 
Brazilian edition 
> of the book "The Solar System", by Mr. Arthur Powell – a follower 
of 
> C.W.L.'s –  can still be bought in Brazil with this description of 
physical 
> life on Mars.
> 
> Another author and leading Adyar clairvoyant, Mr. Geoffrey Hodson,  
followed 
> the same track at least up to the 1950s. In 1954-1955, Mr. Hodson 
delivered 
> a series of talks and classes to students in the international 
headquarters 
> of the Adyar Society, in Madras/Chennai, southern India. It was 
part of the  
> "School of the Wisdom". The content of his lectures was published 
by the 
> T.P.H. in India, in 1955, in two large volumes under the title 
of "Lecture 
> Notes -- The  School of the Wisdom", with 616 pp. in the volume I 
and 582 
> pp. in volume II.  On pages 445-442 of  volume I, Mr. Geoffrey 
Hodson quotes 
> and adopts, though  in a somewhat cautious way,  the same vividly 
absurd  
> description made by Mr. Leadbeater about a civilization on the red 
planet.   
>   (CCA)
> 
> 
> 
> O o o O o o O o o O o o O
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