Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00556)

Senor Carlos is at it again. This time he is trying to discredit CWL 
by insinuating that CWL had something to do with Annie 
Besant's 'Adepthood' announcement - that CWL was really the 'Origin'. 

In fact, Leadbeater had nothing to do with it at all. The Adepthood 
story was concocted by George Arundell while Leadbeater was in 
Australia. George may have thought it up himself or got it from this 
Wedgwood person. In any case, Leadbeater did not believe the story. 
When Krishnamurthi questioned him about it, Leadbeater said (in so 
many words) that Krishnamurthi was the only Arhat he was aware of 
(that Krishnamurthi was indeed an Arhat has been confirmed by others).

To suggest that CWL was somehow responsible for this sorry episode is 
spreading lies about someone who has done a lot to advance the cause 
of Theosophy albeit by unconventional means. Mr. Carlos needs to read 
his sources more carefully and stop making connections (between 
Leadbeater and Arundell's Adepthood) that don't exist. 

Regards, 

Dave

(I had better get out of here quick, Mr Psionics is coming after me :-
))


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> FRIENDS,
> 
> below, a letter to a fellow truth-seeker whow wrote to me 
complaining
> about the significant number of controversies in the Theosophical 
Movement.  
> Carlos.
> 
> 
> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> 
> Dear  Friend,
> 
> Brotherly friendship and understanding need freedom and diversity.
> 
> It is important that you read Letter 120, Mahatma Letters, 
Chronological 
> Edition, on the London Lodge Crisis. (I do not remember the Letter 
number in 
> non-cronological editions).
> 
> It was written by a Mahatma after consulting with his own Master 
about 
> theosophical controversies.  The essence of the Letter  is that, 
according 
> to the Masters,  the contrast of views and opinions,
> once they are sincere, must be freely exercized and even preserved 
from 
> hypocritical make-belief and outer harmony.
> 
> It coincides with a famous poem written by English poet Alexander 
Pope, 
> which says (and I quote the idea, no the words themselves):
> 
> "Every disharmony is a harmony that you cannot understand yet".
> 
> So true harmony will never emerge from repressing diversity and 
true 
> contrast in nature.
> 
> Thought monoculture is as disastrous as agricultural monoculture.
> 
> Thought diversity in the mind world is as important as biodiversity 
in 
> natural environment.
> 
> The great treason, conscious or unconscious, promoted by CWL and A. 
Besant 
> against the
> HPB Mission (a Mission, by the way,  which is NOT limited to the 
19th 
> century) was to create rituals as a way of establishing an 
uniformity of 
> thought under their own popish control.
> 
> Now, there is a difference between contrast, frankness, dversity, 
and 
> hatred, enmity and the like.
> 
> It is by puting on the table and freely examining the failures of 
the 
> movement as a whole (and
> occultly Adyar is NOT separated from the rest of the movement), 
that we will 
> gradually eliminate all bitter feelings among us.
> 
> I do not have access to Internet from my Library, but I can tell 
tomorrow 
> you the number of the Letter 120 in the other editions of the 
Mahatma 
> Letters. Tell me if you want that.
> 
> And, by the way, if you study the M.  Letters you will see that 
CWL's 
> writings have nothing to see
> with the Mahatmas' teachings.
> 
> AND  --- do you happen to know that CWL was never admitted to the 
Esoteric 
> School founded by H.P.B.?
> 
> He received a couple of letters from the Mahatmas, yes, but soon he 
was out 
> of focus. He never was admitted to the HPB's inner school.  
Instead, he was 
> busy having mediumnistic "chats" with imaginary Masters  in 
the 'inner 
> circle' of Mr. A. P. Sinnett, in London.  A. Besant also took part, 
there, 
> right after HPB's death.  (See Mr. A.P. Sinnett Memoirs.)  And soon 
the 
> nonsense began.
> 
> Then CWL became the source of Mrs. A.Besant "contact" with her own 
imaginary 
> Masters.
> 
> It was in this way that Besant finnally anounced, in 1925  that she 
had 
> attained Adepthood, as
> I have documented here while illustrating the life of Mr. James 
Wedgwood, 
> the founder of the Liberal Catholic Church and another 
Adyar "Adept" in 
> 1925.   The inquestionable source is Mary Lutyens, J. 
Krishnamurti's 
> biographer.
> 
> It's History.  These are documented facts. As a source, A.P. 
Sinnett was 
> never questioned.
> 
> He was international vice-president under Annie Besant, and close 
friends 
> with CWL and her until he died.
> 
> I have all the data and can bring them all here to you.  I believe 
it is 
> indeed important that we
> understand the origin of all the "clairvoyant" fancies in order to 
> understand them and then to GET RID OF THEM.
> 
> 
> I hope you have the patience to stand the "ugly truths" we must 
accept, 
> examine and learn from, in order to go ahead to the next step.
> 
> 
> Best regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline
> 
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